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Video: Growing Marxist Movement in NYC, Say They Prefer to be Called “Progressives”

We’re proud as hell of our conservative views, they’re afraid to tell people what they are and instead rely on deception. That speaks volumes.

(BBTV) — A look at the growing Marxist movement in New York City. Even though they read Marx and Stalin, organize protests against Israel and play a board game that equates capitalism with barbarism, they shy away from calling themselves “socialist”. As one member puts it, “It’s more positive to say progressive or left.”

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61 comments
  1. Iron Maiden says:
    January 2, 2011 at 8:44 pm

    Limbaugh is right when he says the Left never let you know what they truly are. They always hide behind another word. Oftentimes, they try to sound Conservative so people will accept them. Then once accepted, they swing wildly Marxist.
    Additionally, Limbaugh had this other gem – anytime a Democrat speaks, he’s lying. Absolutely true. If you understand that statement, you understand Democrats.

  2. Rocketman says:
    January 2, 2011 at 8:49 pm

    A commie by any other name is still a commie.

  3. artsykr says:
    January 2, 2011 at 8:53 pm

    Wondering .. Do they work?

  4. vagabond trader says:
    January 2, 2011 at 9:03 pm

    Never liked the progressive label. Commie is classic. Commie is truth. Commie works fine,why fix it? :mrgreen:

  5. Larry7 (prev. just Larry) says:
    January 2, 2011 at 9:06 pm

    “America is like a healthy body and its resistance is threefold: its patriotism, its morality, and its spritual life. If we can undermine these three areas, America will collapse from within.”
    –Joseph Stalin

    (quoted in AGENDA – Grinding America Down. Trailer:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SH8LkIqu1c8 )

  6. czekmark says:
    January 2, 2011 at 9:06 pm

    Yeah, the left are great with deceptive labels and slogans. Remember ‘Hope and Change’?

  7. tim acken says:
    January 2, 2011 at 9:07 pm

    It is not progress when the plan is to turn us into a third world country

  8. steven jeffries says:
    January 2, 2011 at 9:11 pm

    nothing says love Then the flat smack of fist in commie face

  9. kansas says:
    January 2, 2011 at 9:11 pm

    Then there’s the conscription of a word that formerly meant happy to describe a lifestyle that is un PC to criticize.

  10. DaMav says:
    January 2, 2011 at 9:23 pm

    @kansas
    Yep, it’s a marketing term nothing more. Use of gay to describe homosexuals is pervasive bias and almost universally used by the media and even in a lot of blogs that should know better. There is nothing ‘gay’ about a life style with demonstrably higher rates of depression, suicide, and chronic illness.

  11. Black_Rain says:
    January 2, 2011 at 9:30 pm

    so… you need to offer something better.

    and i don’t think a Cleptocratic Plutocracy that robs the old, the poor and the sick to give Welfare to the richest people on earth.

    the richest 1% holds 42% of Americas financial Wealth, 6 times the financial Wealth as the Poorest 80%… so top 20% holds 93% of Americas
    Wealth financial. the Bush43 Tax cuts really only give the richest 2.5% richest people nearly 1/2 trillion dollars of “Welfare” a year… 1/2 the national debt

    Warren Buffet said he didn’t access all the loop holes and still pays less taxes than his cleaning lady.

    now Lindsey Graham wants to give the richest people in the world EVEN MORE Welfare … tax cuts paid for by cutting old and sick people’s Social Security and medicare…

    there is a recession simply because the money is tied up BY THE RICH in speculating on the necessities of life of the poor, raising the cost of living for the underclasses.

    http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/wealth.html

    the article is about an F’n BOOK STORE.. IT IS JUST SPIN.

    what are the NeoCons putting in your Tea..?? you guys have enough money to retire and provide your own insurance..? I’ve been paying on my Medicare every paycheck, I’m 63 still working, i can never quit working.. the Bush recession ruined us, cut our family income by 60%, destroyed our savings and retirement… and you think it is OK to rob me and give it to the richest people on earth..?? why.??

  12. Larry7 (prev. just Larry) says:
    January 2, 2011 at 9:32 pm

    Communists LOVE to lie.

    “The growing Marxist movement in New York City…, they shy away from calling themselves “socialist”.”

    (Or Marxists or Communists)

    “It’s more positive to say progressive or left.”

    Hey, what’s not positive about a totalitarian ideology that killed 150 million outside of war and destroys all God-given freedoms?
    ___________

    “The goal of Socialism is Communism.”
    –Vladimir Lenin

  13. Sadie says:
    January 2, 2011 at 9:38 pm

    RT (Russian Today) News

    Fuck’em. Didn’t like them yesterday, don’t like them today and still gonna hate them tomorrow.

  14. Vixen says:
    January 2, 2011 at 9:42 pm

    Check out Paul Kengor’s book “Dupes: How America’s Adversaries Have Manipulated Progressives for a Century”.

    A real eye-opener.

  15. Bat says:
    January 2, 2011 at 9:50 pm

    We all know that the Soviet Union wasn’t communism as it was intended, but even communism in its purest form would be just as cruel and oppressive. There are no two human individuals that are exactly like, and treating them as such hinders the expansion of the different talents and abilities that each human possesses. Karl Marx, in his quest for “equality” by favoring an idealistic view of the poor working class while excluding all others, is easily one of the biggest hypocrites of all time.

  16. gastorgrab says:
    January 2, 2011 at 9:53 pm

    “The people here are not calling for violent revolution……”

    ————-

    If they think so little of us that they would be willing to kill (as they have in the past), why would they bat an eye about lying to us?

    Does a total lack of respect for the rights of others exclude deception as a means to their end?
    .

  17. brain trust says:
    January 2, 2011 at 10:15 pm

    They can call themselves the “Lollipop Kids” they will still be Marxists. Rush, Sean, Mark and the rest of the Constitutionalists will call them as they are.

  18. 9-11 Infidel says:
    January 2, 2011 at 10:19 pm

    Two excellent books on the left speak volumes about the leftist/Marxist/Commie alliance with Pisslam. They are: “United in Hate” and the newest (and maybe his best work) “Showdown With Evil: Our Struggle Against Tyranny and Terror ” That second book ties in well with this article.

    Jamie Glazov is someone who lived in the old Soviet Union. It is former Soviet State/Eastern Bloc types like himself that are acutely aware of the existential threat posed by leftists in this country.

    @Black_Rain: Define Neocon for us. Since you’re 64 you would have lived through the era that gave rise to that term. Define it if you can.

  19. a former dem says:
    January 2, 2011 at 10:25 pm

    as someone who used to call myself “liberal” without realising what that really meant, I wonder why conservatives don’t straight out ask these people:

    “when you say you are a “progressive”, what exactly are you progressing past? the US Constitution? the founding principles this country was built on?” what?? ”

    I mean, “conservative” is conserving those founding principles outlined in the Constitution, so why is being a “progressive” a source of pride if you want to progressive past that little ol’ document “that is over 100 years old that no one now understands” (as wash compost recently stated)?

  20. Another ByStander says:
    January 2, 2011 at 10:30 pm

    I get RT television on my Time Warner cable system. RT Television always does it’s best to make sure America looks weak and about to fall. This is a post Soviet era 24 hour news station, they do everything they can do to make America look as bad as they can make it look. This station aims at an American audience and let’s face it- it’s all Russian propaganda posing as some sort of CNN clone. Tthe Russians still hate us.

  21. Van Grungy says:
    January 2, 2011 at 10:32 pm

    http://www.calgaryherald.com/health/Christ+meets+Foot+atheist+cities/3913741/story.html

    Atheists finally pick on the moon god of muslims…

    Must be Pat Condell Fans…

  22. Mr. Galt says:
    January 2, 2011 at 10:33 pm

    @BlackRain,

    If I want to read the distortions of the Obamunist regime, I’ll flick the channel to one of the government controlled MFM propaganda outlets.

    Thanks for playing. Now do the world a favor: eat some buckshot for the good of Mother Gaia.

  23. gastorgrab says:
    January 2, 2011 at 10:40 pm

    ……still waiting for supporters to give an example of even a single ‘Communist Success Story’.

    If they’re doing all this “for our own good”, shouldn’t they make sure that their plan is possible? Has Communism ever succeeded anywhere?
    .

  24. txlady706 says:
    January 2, 2011 at 10:42 pm

    The reason that there is such disparity in classes IS BECAUSE the socialists and progressives have had the larger voice. There has been virtually NO counter to the LIBERAL agenda thats been pushed through. The conservatives have allowed themselves to be outwitted. The reason that there is such a division in class is exactly because the PROGRESSIVES have had a LOUDER voice. They are the Democrats. This is what has hijacked the Democrats in America. The Republicans are not too far behind. THIS is why you see little difference between the two parties. They have BOTH been infiltrated by the progressive leftist.
    REALLY – who ever heard of “compassionate conservative” – what does that even mean? LIES – that what. A President who can’t reason. A situation where discrimination is a bad word. To be discriminating used to mean that one was wise. Now, it’s a dirty word.
    Wisdom is a mystical word. No one admits to it, because it would require that one is discriminatory. How far we have come. How far we have fallen.

  25. Sniffy Pop, Tuna Scented Popcorn says:
    January 2, 2011 at 10:43 pm

    @Black_Rain

    With Obama you will not have to worry about retirement, because the country will not have any money. If he has it his way we will collapse as a society. My Mother went through all of this same shit with Hitler in Nazi Germany.

    You think it’s bad now because you have to work? Just wait you will not have Jack Shit for a job or a place to stay. May be they can assign one of their Death Panels to help you on your way.

    I fear that me son will be paying the bill for Obamas intentional destruction of our financial system.

  26. rae4palin says:
    January 2, 2011 at 10:46 pm

    Black_Rain says:
    January 2, 2011 at 9:30 pm
    so… you need to offer something better.

    Here you go, BR: “Marx & Satan” by Richarad Wurmbrand. Available at VOM books for $8. http://yumurl.com/lbxGSs

    It has a bunch of Karl Marx’s satanic poetry. Here’s a sample:

    With disdain I will throw my gauntlet
    Full in the face of the world,
    And see the collapse of this pygmy giant
    Whose fall will not stifle my ardour.

    Then will I wander godlike and victorious
    Through the runis of the world
    And, giving my words an active force,
    I will feel equal to the Creator.

  27. Van Grungy says:
    January 2, 2011 at 10:51 pm

    Socialism is neo-Feudalism…

    The ‘ruling class’ is just fine with you peons choosing slavery…

    When have the poor ever become more wealthy under socialism?

    The poor under socialism only have one way to go.. six feet under..

    Without real Rule of Law, the anathema to socialism, the poor will never have the choice to ‘move on up’..

    The ‘ruling class’ hates real Rule of Law because that would disallow the cronyism that they love so much which flourishes under socialism…

    ====

    Screw off commie idiots.. you just couldn’t cut it anymore.. the ‘ruling class’ has brought in the muslims to speed up the process of slavery.. muslims enjoy their slavery under shariah because their indoctrination disallows deviation and discontent by rule of allah (not God)

    muslims will be serfs willingly.. and they have an internal mechanism to destroy dissent on the local level..

    The ‘ruling class’ has chosen to replace Christian Individuals with muslims because you socialists still have remnants of Reason left in your psyches…

    You asswipes failed..

    This was a last resort, but Progressive Revelation Theology has enthralled the ‘ruling class’ to Progress all humans to the muslim stage of spirituality…

    Instead of being hostile to spirituality, the ‘ruling class’, who have never been atheist, have championed the Universalism in Religion Faith.. and it must include islam..

  28. Iron Maiden says:
    January 2, 2011 at 10:56 pm

    @Black Rain:

    You like Obama so much? Defend this, please:

    24 months of Obama has given us record deficits, record unemployment, longest jobless stretch since the 1930′s, record bank failures, record foreclosures, record trade deficits, record poverty rate, failing dollar, national poverty at record highest level, foreign policy disasters, record number of golf games played by a president, record death toll in Afghanistan, record number of food stamp recipients, consumer confidence at record lows, record number of days spent abroad by a US President, auto bailout money being used to build a plant in Mexico, ME-Chelle with a record number of personal assistants, the worst environmental disaster in the US largely ignored and exploited for political gain, SEC now immune from FOIA, internet wiretaps made easier, executive order used to assassinate Americans overseas, Gitmo still open, secret wiretaps still on, lobbyists, corporations and special interests still have unimpeded access to members of Congress, a ‘Safe Schools Czar’ who is pedophile friendly, record number of unelected and unaccountable Czars, continuation of the war in Iraq and the expansion of the war into Pakistan and Yemen, bills passed in the dead of night on weekends and holidays in order to hide them from the public, a two billion dollar trip of record extravagance to India. 5 trillion in loans to overseas banks, Harley Davidson, GE, NBC, BMW, Toyota and others, warrantless government monitoring of private citizens’ credit cards transactions, continued hiring of military contractors, FCC takeover of the internet, allow law enforcement to place homing beacons on vehicles without a warrant.

  29. Van Grungy says:
    January 2, 2011 at 11:01 pm

    allow law enforcement to place homing beacons on vehicles without a warrant.
    ===

    The 9th Circuit isn’t ALL Obama’s fault… And I will say, I believe, the 6th Circuit ruled against the GPS tracking…

  30. gastorgrab says:
    January 2, 2011 at 11:02 pm

    …..still waiting for that example of a ‘Communist Success Story’. (150 years and counting)

  31. Van Grungy says:
    January 2, 2011 at 11:03 pm

    still waiting for that example of a ‘Communist Success Story’. (150 years and counting)
    ====

    I’m right about the muslims being brought in to implement Agenda 21 properly because the marxists just don’t cut it in the long run..

  32. Tony says:
    January 2, 2011 at 11:04 pm

    another friggin invasion?

  33. gastorgrab says:
    January 2, 2011 at 11:17 pm

    Just watch. Soon they will be calling us all ‘Progressophobes’.

  34. Van Grungy says:
    January 2, 2011 at 11:21 pm

    Just watch. Soon they will be calling us all ‘Progressophobes’.

    Yeah, I just hate Progresso Soups… ;-)

  35. That Guy says:
    January 2, 2011 at 11:22 pm

    Here’s how I see this: in the United States, we give people a right to say and think as they please — so long as they do not stand a credible threat of inciting violence/serious crime. That being said, it’s understandable that some people will find their subjective answer to the world’s problems in the words of Karl Marx. It is as inevitable as darkness turning to day, regardless of how much I may disagree with the man.

    We should not create an antipathy towards people because they think differently; it would be better to just allow them to err in their ways, and only to engage them when it is necessary — meaning when they are intending on imposing their beliefs on the rest of us. Isn’t that why the tenth amendment exists? If State X wants System 1, but only for themselves, then State Y doesn’t need to impose itself on them to prevent them from doing it.

  36. rae4palin says:
    January 2, 2011 at 11:24 pm

    That Guy — You’re so deep. /s

  37. sjh says:
    January 2, 2011 at 11:25 pm

    How about calling them scumbags ? Does that work for you?

  38. Van Grungy says:
    January 2, 2011 at 11:26 pm

    If State X wants System 1, but only for themselves, then State Y doesn’t need to impose itself on them to prevent them from doing it.
    ===

    Just don’t bail out Commifornia.

  39. Fishy Commentator (aka J. Wright) says:
    January 2, 2011 at 11:32 pm

    There is NO Marxist Utopia anywhere in the world. Communism is like the Theocratic government of Islam, the most murderous tyrants who survive rise to power. All the stupid idealists are exterminated (like the morons in this video) because once they realize what they are really getting, they will try to rebel.

  40. gastorgrab says:
    January 3, 2011 at 12:16 am

    Progressives are in the midst of an ideological panic right now. They have questions that should be simple to answer, but are not for some reason.

    Every one of the government programs currently in danger of collapse would not exist in a pure capitalist system; Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid, Fannie Mae/Freddy Mac, Welfare, etc., etc.. Each one of these programs were intended to ‘Equalize the Outcome’ of a situation. Although no documented crime has been committed, a judgment has been rendered that awarded from persons with ‘high outcome’, to persons of ‘low outcome’. It was concluded that the difference in the amount of ‘stuff’ that two people had, amounted to an injustice…….but no trial was held……..no jury was called……and no judge resided over the decision to award ‘damages’.

    Is excessive ambition a moral crime? Is intelligence or skill a crime against the human spirit? Is a work-ethic that exceeds the standard of the national average somehow a conspiracy to violate an unwritten law?

    Who decides what the unwritten laws are?
    .

  41. Satan4033 says:
    January 3, 2011 at 12:26 am

    The troll is 64 days old

    Exactly gastor they would all be privatized and not exist in their current form

  42. gastorgrab says:
    January 3, 2011 at 12:33 am

    there is a recession simply because the money is tied up BY THE RICH in speculating on the necessities of life of the poor, raising the cost of living for the underclasses.

    http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/wealth.html

    ———————

    While we’re on the subject of charts and graphs, are people Democrats because their poor, or are they poor because their Democrats?

    Can we please see a ‘distribution of wealth’ chart that only includes Democrats? I think you’ll find that we’re likely to discover a much larger gap between rich and poor, by measuring only Democrats, as opposed to measuring the population in general.

    That’s how the rich get rich…..by talking the poor into buying their products. People like Warren Buffett, Bill Gates, the majority of Goldman Sachs, George Soros, Ted Turner…… All of these “evil rich people” are Democrats for a reason; it’s profitable!

    I would even go so far as to say that many of them have profited from the recession. That becomes much easier when you can limit the number of competitors. You can do that by preventing anyone else from ever getting as rich as you currently are.
    .

  43. vinny says:
    January 3, 2011 at 2:16 am

    Are you dumb ass democrats listening or is this what you fools have become.

  44. Rupaula says:
    January 3, 2011 at 3:13 am

    “You like Obama so much? Defend this, please:

    24 months of Obama has given us record deficits, record unemployment, longest jobless stretch since the 1930′s, record bank failures, record foreclosures, record trade deficits, record poverty rate, failing dollar, national poverty at record highest level, foreign policy disasters, record number of golf games played by a president, record death toll in Afghanistan, record number of food stamp recipients, consumer confidence at record lows, record number of days spent abroad by a US President, auto bailout money being used to build a plant in Mexico, ME-Chelle with a record number of personal assistants, the worst environmental disaster in the US largely ignored and exploited for political gain, SEC now immune from FOIA, internet wiretaps made easier, executive order used to assassinate Americans overseas, Gitmo still open, secret wiretaps still on, lobbyists, corporations and special interests still have unimpeded access to members of Congress, a ‘Safe Schools Czar’ who is pedophile friendly, record number of unelected and unaccountable Czars, continuation of the war in Iraq and the expansion of the war into Pakistan and Yemen, bills passed in the dead of night on weekends and holidays in order to hide them from the public, a two billion dollar trip of record extravagance to India. 5 trillion in loans to overseas banks, Harley Davidson, GE, NBC, BMW, Toyota and others, warrantless government monitoring of private citizens’ credit cards transactions, continued hiring of military contractors, FCC takeover of the internet, allow law enforcement to place homing beacons on vehicles without a warrant.”

    Exactly, can you imagine how much worse it would be if McCain was elected?

  45. Bunker says:
    January 3, 2011 at 4:38 am

    @Rupaula

    Eh maybe, neither Nancy nor Harry would have presented themselves before McCain as readily and graciously as they did for Obama in the name of Party power at the cost of their own branches powers, Their willingness crippled the legislative branch balance and ceded much power to the executive in the form of a horde of Czars and constant executive orders and strong arm tactics from his department heads. Yea McCain would have likely ceded on some legislative grounds (which the Veep would give him hell for) But no way would their be this much centralization of powers into the executive and maybe not near this much of a spending spree.

    Though..if he had been elected then the recent events wouldn’t have happened and would wouldn’t see the Democrats for the pure power mad thugs that they are and the citizens wouldn’t have been mobilized for the November elections as they were and the people wouldn’t be fighting fit ready to use their new congressmen to keep weeding out the bad and leading this country back to solvency. So..in a way yea it would have been worse with McCain because all this abuse wouldn’t have come to light this easy without a rookie who doesn’t know how to hide it taking control of the Democrat Party and the White House and so blatantly forcing his will all over the place.

  46. BlueSky says:
    January 3, 2011 at 6:16 am

    When fascism took hold in Europe, guess what the branch that sprouted here referred to themselves as:

    The Progressive Party.

    Modern lib’s get a pass from the MSM in this regard. “Progressive”, as a brand or concept, is neither innovative nor fresh. Nothing new under the sun. Just rehashing old labels for an equally old power grab.

  47. John Galt says:
    January 3, 2011 at 6:44 am

    Collectivism = collective fail.
    Marxism drags everyone except the ruling elite to the lowest level possible.
    It is the philosophy of envy, meaning if I can’t have it, nobody can.
    It is aided and abetted by the carrot on a stick of promised ‘Heaven on Earth’ or ‘Eden in our time’. Which has always ended up to be ‘Hell on Earth’ or ‘Sodom and Gomorrah in our time’.

    This is why they had to destroy the education system, in particular factual history. Why would someone publish a history book that is factually false? Because some young person will read it and think it true.

    The Elites are leading the American people to the cliff. We have lived in misery and poverty before, and can do so again. That is not the problem. The problem is that they seek to take away our liberty. This we must fight until our dying breath.

    Who is John Galt?

  48. Xerocky says:
    January 3, 2011 at 6:54 am

    The left cause the crisis with their fair houseing policy, and then they back away with their hands in the air and act like it’s got nothing to do with them.

    My objection to this ‘report’ is simply that it’s always been this way. NYC has always been a hive of leftist commie idiots.

  49. MomKnowsBest says:
    January 3, 2011 at 11:36 am

    Uhh, Black Rain…the U.S. unemployment rate averaged 4.7% from 2001-2007 under President Bush. This compares with a 5.2% average rate during President Clinton’s term of office, and is well below the 10% of unemployment currently (which is realisticly more like 18%). Under Bush the middle class grew faster than any period the last 20 years. But then at 64, you are old enough to know that.

  50. Satan4033 says:
    January 3, 2011 at 11:42 am

    No you silly under Bush unemployment was 30 Bazillion percent

    /Sarc

  51. Atom&Yves says:
    January 3, 2011 at 6:23 pm

    Thanks for this one, ZIP. Dems (including my ‘progressive’ daughter) need to know they’ve been co-opted by commies, and face the reality/error of their ways.

  52. mike r. says:
    January 4, 2011 at 8:48 am

    I prefer to call them traitors!

  53. radical1a says:
    January 4, 2011 at 8:53 am

    Black_Rain I feel your pain , I have an idea instead of whinning about those who made the correct decision in their lives why don’t you spread the word to you black youth , Act white get an education , don’t have kids out of wedlock and stop breeding yourselves into poverty . Get a job and don’t quit it untell you have a better job . I myself believe that everyone including the poor should pay a tax rate of 36% , only then will your Poor want a tax break because right now they don’t pay a penny , everyone else does.

  54. radical1a says:
    January 4, 2011 at 8:54 am

    Black_Rain I feel your pain , I have an idea instead of whining about those who made the correct decision in their lives why don’t you spread the word to you black youth , Act white get an education , don’t have kids out of wedlock and stop breeding yourselves into poverty . Get a job and don’t quit it untell you have a better job . I myself believe that everyone including the poor should pay a tax rate of 36% , only then will your Poor want a tax break because right now they don’t pay a penny , everyone else does.

  55. Jack Sprat says:
    January 4, 2011 at 10:07 am

    For years, the Left has tried to fool everyone into thinking they wanted “Liberty” with their old label.

    Now they want to pretend they are for “Progress” (Whatever that means) with the label of “progressive.”

    Let us call them what they REALLY are: Oppressives

    Oppressive control over your Healthcare. [Obamacare]
    Oppressive control over your use of energy.[EPA regulation of greenhouse gases]
    Oppressive control over your freedom of expression. [Political correctness, FCC control of the Internet]
    Oppressive control over your money [Taxes and more taxes]

  56. 2WarAbnVet says:
    January 4, 2011 at 10:20 am

    I don’t understand the problem. I’ve known for years that Progressives were Marxists.

  57. radical1a says:
    January 4, 2011 at 11:20 am

    Satan4033 you must be sucking on that crack pipe again

  58. Dennis Welch says:
    January 4, 2011 at 12:17 pm

    for @black rain

    “F” you and the horse you rode in on.
    May the fleas of 1000 camels infest your armpits
    Eat Sh!T and die

    Otherwise , have a happy communist new year.

  59. DohBiden says:
    January 4, 2011 at 12:39 pm

    I was being sarcastic

  60. Jerry says:
    January 4, 2011 at 2:19 pm

    The USA sent 406,000 men to their death in WW2, 33,000 in the Korean War and 58,000 in the Vietnam War to defeat Communist / Fascism. Why do we let them live among us now?

  61. Bill O. Rights says:
    January 4, 2011 at 10:46 pm

    The evil Capitalists/Republicans I know all seem to work 40 to 80 hours per week, make between $12 and $40 an hour (the latter ones with 8-12 years of college education and debt), and be very open minded towards those with different incomes and religions and ethnicities, whereas the Progressives/Democrats fall into a very bimodal group – those living off handouts, playing the welfare system and unwilling to work (though they work for cash if they want extra vacation or drug money), and those living off trust-funds, and not needing to work, or making >$50/hr, so they really don’t need to worry about meeting their ‘basic needs’. The latter group is OBSESSED with money and materialism and consumption, and extremely intolerant of anyone with different (i.e. ‘rural’) lifestyles or religious (i.e. non-Atheist) views.

    I guess that’s just the difference in real-world observation vs. the land of Oz.

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