Salon Liberal Glenn Greenwald Horrified We Had to Kill Bin Laden, Equally Outraged Over “Orgy of National Pride” That Followed…
Apparently we should have knocked and asked politely.
(Glenn Greenwald) — The killing of Osama bin Laden is one of those events which, especially in the immediate aftermath, is not susceptible to reasoned discussion. It’s already a Litmus Test event: all Decent People — by definition — express unadulterated ecstacy at his death, and all Good Americans chant “USA! USA!” in a celebration of this proof of our national greatness and Goodness (and that of our President). Nothing that deviates from that emotional script will be heard, other than by those on the lookout for heretics to hold up and punish. Prematurely interrupting a national emotional consensus with unwanted rational truths accomplishes nothing but harming the heretic (ask Bill Maher about how that works).
I’d have strongly preferred that Osama bin Laden be captured rather than killed so that he could be tried for his crimes and punished in accordance with due process (and to obtain presumably ample intelligence). But if he in fact used force to resist capture, then the U.S. military was entitled to use force against him, the way American police routinely do against suspects who use violence to resist capture. But those are legalities and they will be ignored even more so than usual. The 9/11 attack was a heinous and wanton slaughter of thousands of innocent civilians, and it’s understandable that people are reacting with glee over the death of the person responsible for it. I personally don’t derive joy or an impulse to chant boastfully at the news that someone just got two bullets put in their skull — no matter who that someone is — but that reaction is inevitable: it’s the classic case of raucously cheering in a movie theater when the dastardly villain finally gets his due. . . .
This is how President Obama put it in last night’s announcement:
The cause of securing our country is not complete. But tonight, we are once again reminded that America can do whatever we set our mind to. That is the story of our history, whether it’s the pursuit of prosperity for our people, or the struggle for equality for all our citizens; our commitment to stand up for our values abroad, and our sacrifices to make the world a safer place.
Does hunting down Osama bin Laden and putting bullets in his skull really “remind us that we can do whatever we set our mind to”? Is that really “the story of our history”? That seems to set the bar rather low in terms of national achievement and character.
In sum, a murderous religious extremist was killed. The U.S. has erupted in a collective orgy of national pride and renewed faith in the efficacy and righteousness of military force. Other than that, the repercussions are likely to be far greater in terms of domestic politics — it’s going to be a huge boost to Obama’s re-election prospects and will be exploited for that end — than anything else.
This is why no one with half a brain trusts the left with national security.
Posted by ZIP on Monday, May 2, 2011, at 4:23 pm | 
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“all Decent People — by definition — express unadulterated ecstacy at his death”…
Yes, we do. As a matter of fact we are overjoyed when evil pieces of shit meet their end and will continue to do so until all evil is purged from the face of the earth. Any of you who morn his death are in league with Satan. Better turn before you burn.
Fuck off faggot.
What are the consequences?
A much smaller carbon footprint?
Does anyone here really give a shit what this brain dead lefty has to say. As far as I’m concerned he can go to Hell along with Osama.
It’s almost as though he thinks that celebrating the death of OBL is worse than anything or OBL or his minions did.
It is called a war shit for brains.
It is treating it as a war that lead to OBL.
If all those detainees had been treated the way you want they wouldn’t have given up the courier that was used to track down OBL.
Go live in Saudi, you deserve each other.
Dead babies=good
Dead terrorist mass murderer=bad.
Behold, the mind of a lefturd.
Until Hindus, Buddhists, Christians, and Jews abandon their beliefs and follow islam’s barbaric teachings to the fullest extent, muslims will continue to kill. It’s that simple.
There is no appeasing these people and the sooner the left and some on the right realize this the better.
We have to callout out islam for what it is- a violent, corrupt and barbaric ideology modeled after the teachings of a pedophile “prophet”.
I have the feeling he might be more inclined to celebrate if GWB had met a similar fate.
“What are the consequences?”
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We’re not done with our consequences yet!
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No one with half a brain (or just a few functioning brain cells) should trust the left with ANYTHING!
faggot commie
Bin Laden probably has not complained once since he got killed. Who knows, he probably likes it somehow. You know what a wonderful place heaven is suppose to be. Bin Laden is probably gratefull to the Americans for killing him.
That’s why this move by Obama is so extraordinary, because I’m sure he feels the same way, but pushed that aside in order win the election.
Knock knock.
Who’s there?
Pizza delivery (door opens).
Usama Bin Laden?
Yes…
That’ll be $16.51 with BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM!BLAM! BLAM!
Thanks, have a nice night…….
Knock knock.
Who’s there?
Pizza delivery (door opens).
Glenn Greenwald?
Yes…
That’ll be $41.51 with BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM!BLAM! BLAM!
Thanks, have a nice night…….
Can’t people stave off the snark for a couple days?
I see no downside. So they go out in the streets and start killing each other. Big f’n deal I say.
The last thing Osama Obama wanted was OBL in the US getting ready for trial just as he is heading into Nov. 2012. Obama is an idiot, but he is not a complete idiot. He would have been creamed come election time.
The consequenses?
At least for some time, more freedom.
The Liberal Progressive Left has a little problem with “National pride and renewed faith in the efficacy and righteousness of military force.”
Waahhhhh, sucks to be you Glenn. Leave please if it’s unbecoming of you all.
“The killing of Osama bin Laden is one of those events which, especially in the immediate aftermath, is not susceptible to reasoned discussion.”
Sure it is. If I found the sniper who did it, would it be better to buy him a steak dinner, or just a big case of beer?
Glenn,
Here are the consequences as I see them:
A) The islamists see limp wristed prisses such as yourself as somehow representative of American men, laugh, and up their attacks dramatically;
OR….
B) We continue to send Navy Seals et al who are actually much closer to a much larger segment of American men than you can wrap your little mind (not lips, creep) around, whack them mercilessly, and they think, well, maybe not.
What say you aging hippie liberal douche?
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RTS
So, Greenwald, presumably a Jew, would not derive joy at the news that someone just got two bullets put in their skull NO MATTER WHO THAT SOMEONE IS? Really, Glenn? No joy if this happened 70 years ago and that someone was named Hitler? Or Mengele? Or Goering?
What a moronic faggot. If we would have captured him, by the end of the week there would be dozens if not hundreds of people snatched up as hostages all around the world being killed off one by one as muslims demanded his release/
Wow, this entire thread is just filled with so much hate.
“But I say to you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which spitefully use you, and persecute you;”
Honestly I thought Glenn Greenwald’s logic was sound. He clearly has no love for OBL. He cares deeply for due process, and the American judicial system.
Your response? To call him a faggot? It’d be funny if it wasn’t so sad and pathetic. The one thing it proves most of all is that the US education system needs to quadruple it’s budgets. To civilize you heathens. Maybe we can take some money out of military spending.
anonymous:
“Wow, this entire thread is just filled with so much hate.”
LOL. That’s your opinion. Hate is just a libshit buzzword for anyone that disagrees with liberal/progressive/marxist world views.
In order to civilize (yet another libshit buzz word for neutering Alpha males and females aka Spartans), you’d have to kill us. Good luck with that.
Got a better idea. How about the women raise more Spartans and we cast out pussies like you from our society.
Nice Scripture passage. It came from the same guy who called the religious leaders of his day “white washed sepulchurs, who picked a fight with them at every opportunity, and who beat the crap out of the money changers in the Temple.
He’s the same guy who told the Centurion” Never in all of Israel have I seen such faith as this man has.” Great compliment to pay a soldier of Rome.
Or maybe you never read Ecclesiastes 3 1-8
1 There is a time for everything,
and a season for every activity under the heavens:
2 a time to be born and a time to die,
a time to plant and a time to uproot,
3 a time to kill and a time to heal,
a time to tear down and a time to build,
4 a time to weep and a time to laugh,
a time to mourn and a time to dance,
5 a time to scatter stones and a time to gather them,
a time to embrace and a time to refrain from embracing,
6 a time to search and a time to give up,
a time to keep and a time to throw away,
7 a time to tear and a time to mend,
a time to be silent and a time to speak,
8 a time to love and a time to hate,
a time for war and a time for peace.
Go on home to your safe bed little wus. The Spartans live. So long as they live you are free to be a wimp.
Due process? Did captured American soldiers receive “due process” before they were killed and beheaded, burned to char and hung on display for crowds to cheer at? At least Osama got a quick sniper shot to the head and burial at sea… which was a lot faster and more respectful than the victims of 9/11 who suffered agonizing deaths being burned alive, suffocated, and crushed to death.
It’s never a good thing to celebrate death for the sake of death. I would agree with that sentiment. But if you’re going to make this point, how about focusing your energy on the 9/11 victims, as well as all the innocent civilians, journalists, women, and children who have all died on both sides… Your introspection and value for human life is commendable, but misplaced.
I think that if we are to be a noble and righteous people we should be that all the time in all circumstances.
OBL deserved due process NOT for him. Who cares about that mad lunatic criminal satan spawn. OBL deserved due process for US. We do not deserve to degrade ourselves for his sake.
I’m from NYC. That’s my opinion. But I will not celebrate one man’s death. Even if was Hitler, which in this case it basically was. It’s a time for somber reflection. Things I would celebrate: honest politicians. A reinvigorated interest in American achievements other than war / military. I would celebrate an invigorated economy. A better health care system than the weird corporate compromise between the big business cronies on the left and right. Etc.
I just want to see a higher bar. Glenn Greenwald doesn’t bother me. I think his heart’s in the right place. He wants u to be principled. The prinicples of what this country stands for.
As to the “spartan” guy a few posts above? Dude, your name calling makes you sound like a dumb teenager. Who would listen to you other than your friends? Maybe you don’t care about communicating actual ideas to others so we might as well live in two different countries.
anonymous says:
Just pick a pseudonym already.
hows this?