Union Lawyer: Boeing Shouldn’t Move Jobs To The Unskilled, Uneducated South….
Ridiculous.
Comments & pings are closed.(PJM) — Oh no he didn’t? Oh yes, he did. His name is Thomas Geoghegan, and writing in the Wall Street Journal, he rips companies that move manufacturing to the South.
Why is Boeing, one of our few real global champions in beefing up exports, moving work on the Dreamliner from a high-skill work force ($28 an hour on average) to a much lower-wage work force ($14 an hour starting wage)? Nothing could be a bigger threat to the economic security of this country. . . .
We should be aghast that Boeing is sending a big fat market signal that it wants a less-skilled, lower-quality work force.





I have news for these fools. boeing had Union and non Union in California if you were in management you were hourly my husband was upper management for over 25 years with them.
Boeing has been building rocket boosters [including the Saturn V] in the south since 1967. I think we can handle airplanes just fine.
Knowing what I’ve learned about how unions inflate wages, I’d hazard that the $28/hour employees probably aren’t any higher skilled or educated than the $14/hour employees.
“Hey Thomas Geoghegan, Fuck You! This is America, we can move whatever we want whenever we want!”. Union scum bag.
You mean I can upgrade my skill level and professional credentials by doubling my hourly billing rate? Who knew? Gee, if only I had a degree from Harvard, I could have figured that out all by myself!
I wonder how he’d like it if they moved off shore? Keep pushing scumbag it could happen.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusory_superiority
Illusory superiority is a cognitive bias that causes people to overestimate their positive qualities and abilities and to underestimate their negative qualities, relative to others. This is evident in a variety of areas including intelligence, performance on tasks or tests and the possession of desirable characteristics or personality traits. It is one of many positive illusions relating to the self, and is a phenomenon studied in social psychology.
He’s taking a shot at the South, yes, but he’s essentially saying is the reason the South’s labor is so unskilled is because they make less money per hour (and are hence not as unionized), a ridiculously fallacious argument, especially coming from a socialist.
We have all seen those Union folks. Yea, there so smart and educated. Ha.
We call them teat suckers in our house.
True story:
The Cal Trans came around to fill pothole and redo the streets last year. Our court had no less than 12 guys working on it. Only 3 were actually working, the rest Yak Yak Yak…for four hours. Useless fucks.
If it costs less to live in SC, why pay Washington State rates?
As for the racism.. wow..
No mention of the work ethic in the south. How may Star Yuck Latte breaks does the Union get in Seattle a day?
If there ever was a statement that summarized what is wrong with American unions, this is it.
What a narrow-minded simpleton.
gastorgrab says:
Fits barry perfectly.
“a less-skilled, lower-quality work force”
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Does that come from Bible-thumping, or Gun-toting?
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Going further into ‘Illusory Superiority’:
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Dunning–Kruger effect
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which unskilled people make poor decisions and reach erroneous conclusions, but their incompetence denies them the metacognitive ability to appreciate their mistakes.[1] The unskilled therefore suffer from illusory superiority, rating their ability as above average, much higher than it actually is, while the highly skilled underrate their own abilities, suffering from illusory inferiority. Actual competence may weaken self-confidence, as competent individuals may falsely assume that others have an equivalent understanding. As Kruger and Dunning conclude, “the miscalibration of the incompetent stems from an error about the self, whereas the miscalibration of the highly competent stems from an error about others” (p. 1127).[2]
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I realize we have these types in washington dc , has it spread south?
Blatant racism and “classism”–only to be expected from the cognitively-challenged.
“Union lawyer”–there’s a frightening concept.
If Boeing thought that the folks there were uneducated and unskilled, they wouldn’t move a VERY expensive plant there and expect to have well-made planes.
The people in SC have already demonstrated they are smarter by living in a right to work state. It means they don’t have to live in union slavery. They don’t have to pay some union slavemaster to run their life.
Union workers are less skilled and perform lower quality work because they don’t give a shit about the work – they care about the benefits and pay!
I bet that Commie asshole union thug lawyer Thomas Geoghegan has never done quality work in his life because he doesn’t give a shit either!
The nerve of the Commies in America is on full display!
Face it, when the fit hits the shan, how many liberals are going to be able to feed themselves? 10% if they are lucky. The remaining 90% will walk around looking for a Starbucks!
Being self reliant is a wonderful thing!!
Toyota, Honda, Nissan, and a few others have factories all across the South.
Southerners take lemons and make lemonade, Unions take caviar and make rotten fish eggs.
Genuine southerners are used to adversity. They’re used to trying harder, working longer and making the best of their situation.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304186404576388062830875084.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEFTTopOpinion
“Section 7 of the Wagner Act, passed in 1935, states that all workers can engage in concerted activities without reprisal. The president of Boeing said, in effect: You exercise those rights and we’re moving. Companies have long done such things, of course, but CEOs aren’t usually so gaffe-prone as to say so.”
- THOMAS GEOGHEGAN
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Section 7 of the Wagner Act doesn’t appear to guarantee any particular outcome. It simply says that a union can complain.
Section 7 seems only concerned with “bargaining collectively for wages and working conditions”. It doesn’t give the union on the seat of the board of directors.
How could the working conditions be poor in a plant that hasn’t opened yet?
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What he is really saying:
Black population in Washington state is 5%.
South Carolina it is 28% black
He doesn’t want the black folks to take white people’s jobs.
Pretty racist (yes, I went there).
keep the gov;t out of it they just just screw everything up it is a right to work state, $UCK THE UNIONS THEY DO NOTHING BUT WASTE MONEY, TIME, AND THE AIR WE BREATH.
J in MS says:
June 20, 2011 at 7:24 pm
Toyota, Honda, Nissan, and a few others have factories all across the South.
Well.
GM, and Chrysler are located in the north. Unions are smarter, They were able to get free money from our govt. Chrysler is so smart, they were at their second handout from taxpayers.
The uneducated south statement is just a smokescreen. The real issue here is the federal government attempting to dictate to corporations where and who they can do business with or hire. It’s socialism and must be stopped.
Side note…the EPA sucks and should be disbanded and dufunded.
Personally I think its despicable that in 2011 people are being paid 14 dollars an hour to assemble jet aircraft.
My first job after high school,, in 1985,, was riding shotgun in a box truck delivering office furniture from a warehouse in Rutherford NJ into NYC.
My wage,,,14 dollars an hour.
The working man has officially been put out to pasture,, the middle class is doomed.
In the south, we have guns and we know how to use them. Be forewarned.
@ Zardog
You make a very good point about prevailing wages but the question is, what can be done about it in a world economy? Surely the answer cannot be “Unionize and keep an artificial wage structure that doesn’t support reality”. That will simply postpone the inevitable. Look at Greece, Hell look at the USA….
Replace “less-skilled, lower-quality work force” with “non-union, competitive workforce that’s not being laid off because union jobs are going overseas” and you have the truth of the matter.
The corporate response in a global labor market to union wage protectionism is people in the US making zero dollars an hour because they don’t have a job. Do you think our unemployment rate doubling under a pro-union Democrat president was some sort of coincidence?
“We should be aghast that Boeing is sending a big fat market signal that it wants a less-skilled, lower-quality work force.”
Shouldn’t that be Boeing’s choice? Shouldn’t Boeing be allowed to develop new skill sets in SC workers?
Boeing should be able to move anywhere it wants and it is terrifying that our government under the Obama regime is constantly trying to control private industries and the market. It seems in this country under this regime you can say the most vile things about white people, Christians, Southerners, conservatives and get away with it. Time to slap some of these people with libel suits just to tie up their funds….
Why in God’s name isn’t this asshole working for Barry???? What a talent POS / sorry……..POTUS is missing out on!