Poll: Among Republican Voters Rick Perry Trounces Mitt 55% to 22%…
Christie does even better, but I believe him when he says there’s no way he will run in 2012.
(Newsmax) — Mitt Romney, the supposed front-runner for the Republican presidential nomination, would be trounced in a head-to-head race against either of two yet unannounced GOP candidates, Rick Perry and Chris Christie, a new IBOPE Zogby/Newsmax poll reveals.
In the survey of nearly 1,000 likely Republican primary voters, New Jersey Gov. Christie gets a resounding 62 percent of the vote to Romney’s 19 percent, with the remaining 19 percent not sure.
Texas Gov. Perry gets 55 percent of the vote when matched against former Massachusetts Gov. Romney, who receives 22 percent, with 23 percent not sure.
Significantly, 62 percent of likely GOP primary voters who say they are independents support Christie, and 59 percent support Perry, according to the poll that ended on Tuesday.
HT: Fox Nation
Posted by ZIP on Wednesday, June 22, 2011, at 4:06 pm | 
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Like the liberal lemmings, many conservatives just can’t wait to fall in love with the next primary entrant who professes fealty to the cause. He may be a credible alternative to the current field, but you should know this about Governor Rick Perry of Texas: He entered the Texas House in 1984 as a Democrat. He won reelection as a Democrat in 1986 and 1988. He also served as state chairman of Al Gore’s presidential campaign.
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I see this as possibly being a good news/good news scenario
Good news is: Rick Perry will no longer be Governor of Texas
Good News is: Obama will no longer be President of the United States
win!
@Nothing up my sleeve,…..Disturbing TRUTHS!…
Reagan started as a democrat, too.
Dream ticket: Perry/West
“Lourdes says:
June 22, 2011 at 4:22 pm
Dream ticket: Perry/West”
I was thinking the same thing, we might even get part of the sane black vote that way!
@Nothing up my sleeve
I know that. As do most of those commenting on this site. I have researched Rick Perry up and down and sideways and find him to be a sincere conservative with great charisma, who is smart and relentless.
He can win….against Barack Obama.
@jd: there is a world of difference between when Reagan joined and left the democratic party of the pre-1960′s and the party it was in the 1980′s to today.
It is very sad that this guy can say a few conservative lines, have rush endorse him and all of his many CURRENT LIBERAL views are overlooked. He is nothing more than a RINO in better camouflage.
You do not go from being algore’s campaign head to conservative without an amazing shift in your fundamental thinking process. And aside from his “we are so great” type of comments, there have not been many conservative ideals pushed. Check out his stance on illegals for instance.
Hell, even I was a Democrat many years ago. I wouldn’t vote for a Democrat at gunpoint now!
Perry / ??? 2012 that is the question.
Zogby/Newsmax poll is a reliable poll. Now, watch the guttersnipes start circling!
Silly Season is official!
Let the games begin!
Duckhead – I, too, was once a Democrat *shudder*. I can now admit, with only a smattering bit of residual shame, that I voted for Jimmy Carter AND Bill Clinton.
I’ve always held Perry in high regard – no offense to Huntsman, but crikey, the way the leftist media is cooing and drooling over him makes me wonder what RINO/big government nonsense he supports. It doesn’t help that his family has made gargantuan contributions to the Democrat party. Romney has never warmed my conservative cockles, either.
To Lourdes: Agree with you – would love to see a Perry/West ticket. Or a Perry/Rubio ticket. Or a Perry/Ryan ticket. Or a Bachmann/any of the aforementioned ticket.
“He entered the Texas House in 1984 as a Democrat. He won reelection as a Democrat in 1986 and 1988.”
Some people always need to find problems, 1988 is over 20 years ago, who gives a rats ass if he was called democrat at some point! I was also once registered as a democrap years ago and i am far far from it.
This is all just driving the MSM nuts! They can’t figure out who to attack first, but we all can see who they’re promoting. Way too early yet.
Rick Perry can creat JOBS. He can also WIN over O.
Thank You Katherine.
I’ve done my homework, too. Yep! The point is I believe Perry can WIN in 12!! ((The above tickets are spot on))
Bachman/West/Rubio…..
rboa says:
June 22, 2011 at 4:40 pm
@jd: there is a world of difference between when Reagan joined and left the democratic party of the pre-1960′s and the party it was in the 1980′s to today.
It is very sad that this guy can say a few conservative lines, have rush endorse him and all of his many CURRENT LIBERAL views are overlooked. He is nothing more than a RINO in better camouflage.
You do not go from being algore’s campaign head to conservative without an amazing shift in your fundamental thinking process. And aside from his “we are so great” type of comments, there have not been many conservative ideals pushed. Check out his stance on illegals for instance.
There is also a big difference between the Al Gore of 1988 and today. And if you remember in the 80′s everyone in Texas was a conservative Democrat, it was the only way to get things done then. Now thanks to the Dems becoming full blown commies, Texas will always be a “red” state.
ANOTHER RINO.
He has flip flopped on his take on almost every issue in the past 2 years, knowing he wanted to run.
Why cant we find a true conservative that will run? Where are they hiding? Does a true conservative candidate exist?
I still maintain Hermain Cain is the only true conservative we have, or the closest to it.
@ Joey: “who gives a rats ass if he was called democrat at some point!”
Sorry, but that has to be the dumbest comment Ive seen in a long time. So you dont think peoples pasts have any bearing on who they are, what they do now, or that maybe they switched parties JUST to get elected? You seriously need to go look up people that have done this. Theres quite a few.
At best, he will be a flip flopper, at worst a RINO. And….
More idiots in here chanting West, I see. You continually yell for someone who IS NOT running, is not WANTING to run, then you turn around and ask that others (democrats, etc) accept reality? Last I checked, Herman Cain is conservative, black, calls it like it is and is saying the same things as West and others. Is he the wrong color of black for you? Is it easier for you to yell West than it is to yell Cain? lol
Let’s go with Perry in 2012 and 2016. Christie gets a turn in 2020. How’s that?
Unlike McCain – Rick Perry would actually be committed to winning and not losing gracefully like Meghan’s dad was.
You do not go from being algore’s campaign head to conservative without an amazing shift in your fundamental thinking process. And aside from his “we are so great” type of comments, there have not been many conservative ideals pushed. Check out his stance on illegals for instance.
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The Al Gore of 1988 was a Henry Jackson sort of Democrat. Only after his defeat in 2000 did he go bonkers. Sort of like Charles Jonson being sane from 2002 -2008 and then turning into Markos Moulitsas. A lot of us (me for instance) were registered Democrats at one point. Living in NYC I figured whomever won the Democratic primary would win the general election so I tried to vote for the best available (key word “available’) Democrat around.
The argument that the man was a Democrat etc is irrelevant in the case of Perry. Over ten experience as a governor overwrites any doubt and we can see who he is based on facts and his actions over the years, things that we cannot in the case of Obama, Bachmann and many others.
We do not live in a perfect world people. All of the current potential GOP nominees have certain issues you can pick apart if you look close enough.
I think the two issues we need to address as far as fielding a decent candidate are as folloows:
Is he a full blown RINO? No
Can he win? Yes
Just wait until the media starts in on the cowboy from TX who talks juuust like george bush….We will see how “electable” he is then (i only use that dumbass word because critics of Palin always use it to argue she’s been too damaged). Frankly, Rick Perry is not worth my time to campaign for. Sure he’s better then obama, but that ain’t sayin much.
Palin is the only conservative we have, and the only one i would get out and campaign my ass off for. She has a 20 year record, she has NEVER flip flopped on her positions and she just might be the most genuine political figure i have seen in my lifetime.
She CAN beat obama. The media and the rest of the marxist nutjobs know this.
I will continue to stand and ring the warning bell against this slimy opportunist. A more disingenuous snake oil pitchman will never be found.
Gov’ Goodhair smells oppertunity for self promotion. Never mind Texans keep Texas going, not a figure head limited power governor.
Beware the RINO of which Rick Perry is one.
NO on Perry. Absolutely NO.
For all you Libertarians, and those genuinely concerned:
By NRO author:
“Speaking of presidents: Rick Perry has a complicated relationship with the Bushes, which is to say that he’s hesitant to criticize them and they hate his guts. W. stayed well away from Perry’s gubernatorial-primary melee against Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, whose oatmeal-mushy Republicanism has a distinctly Bushian savor to it. But the mark of W. was all over the campaign against Perry. Former president George H. W. Bush endorsed Senator Hutchison, an unusual step for the habitually reserved retiree, who usually stays well removed from the dirty business of vote-grubbing, surveying the groundlings from the heights of his eminence. Bush père was joined in his support by former vice president Dick Cheney, who offered an endorsement and called Hutchison “the real deal.” Hutchison was further fortified by the Bush clan’s in-house Machiavelli, former secretary of state James Baker, who led the Florida recount fight in 2000 and remains their go-to fixer. W. mouthpiece Karen Hughes came out of the political woodwork to support the insurgency, along with W.’s secretary of education Margaret Spellings. Karl Rove advised Team Hutchison. The gang was all there: All this in a primary challenge to unseat an incumbent Republican governor with one of the most conservative — and most successful — records to be found: Que paso, Bushes?
Part of that was payback. Perry, generally circumlocutious on the subject of W., gave himself a little time off the leash during the 2008 Republican presidential primaries. Often caricatured as yet another snake-handling southern social conservative, Governor Perry backed thrice-married dress-wearing pro-choice lapsed Catholic Rudy Giuliani, on the theory that Rudy would be a badass commander-in-chief abroad and a reliable constitutionalist at home. Politics being politics, the Texan and the New Yorker met up in Iowa, where more than a few Hawkeye conservatives were already getting restive about out-of-control federal spending on the Republicans’ watch. Governor Perry let loose the observation that “George” — and the Bushies hate it when Perry calls him “George” in public — “has never been a fiscal conservative.” Never? “Wasn’t when he was in Texas . . . ’95, ’97, ’99, George Bush was spending money.” He also criticized Bush as being limp on immigration.”
And more:
“The truth hurts, but there’s more to the Bush-Perry friction than that. One longtime observer of Lone Star politics described the Bushes’ disdain of Perry as “visceral,” and it is not too terribly hard to see why. The guy that NPR executives and the New York Times and your average Subaru-driving Whole Foods shopper were afraid George W. Bush was? Rick Perry is that guy. George W. Bush was Midland by way of Kennebunkport. Rick Perry’s people are cotton farmers from Paint Creek, a West Texas town so tiny and remote that my Texan traveling-salesman father looked at me skeptically and suggested I had the name wrong when I asked him whether he knew where it was. (Governor Perry confesses that one of the politiciany things he’s done in office is insisting that the Texas highway atlas include Paint Creek, making him the hometown boy who literally put the town on the map.) Bush is a Yalie, Perry is an Aggie. Bush served in the Texas Air National Guard, and Perry was a captain in the U.S. Air Force, flying C-130s in the Middle East. Bush has a gentleman’s ranch, Perry has the red meat. The irony is that Perry, a tea-party favorite, personifies the hawkish new fiscal conservatism that has allowed the GOP to find its way out from under George W. Bush’s shadow, but he himself remains in the shade of that politically poisonous penumbra.
But he is a very different sort of man. Those who know both Bush and Perry say that Perry has even sharper political instincts — and none of the Bushes’ patrician compunction about deploying them. Governors do not stay popular long in Texas — Bush was the first one to be consecutively re-elected since the four-year term was instituted back in the 1970s, and Perry was the second — and by 2010 Perry already had served in office far longer than any other governor, giving him plenty of time to make enemies. He’d already endured a freak show of a general-election campaign in 2006, when he was challenged by a Republican, the much-renamed former Austin mayor Carole Keeton McClellan Rylander Strayhorn, as well as by the independent candidacy of New York City transplant/mystery novelist/country singer Kinky Friedman (who, with his band, the Texas Jewboys, is the author of such ditties as “Ride ’Em Jewboy” and “They Ain’t Makin’ Jews Like Jesus Anymore”). There was a Democrat in the race, too, former congressman Chris Bell, along with a Libertarian and a right-wing write-in candidate. Perry was elected with less than 40 percent of the vote, which gave Senator Hutchison the impression — wildly wrong, as it turns out — that Perry’s blood was in the political water. She came into the race with the backing of the Bushies and a good deal of the Washington Republican establishment, which often has endured Perry’s blunt upbraidings and bitter scoffs. In liberal Austin, they were gleefully setting his political obituary into type.
And more:
Perry shrugged off the Bushies’ maneuverings and ground Hutchison’s political ambitions into a fine paste, pantsing her so badly that eventually she was forced to announce that she would relinquish her Senate seat, too, something she plainly was not much inclined to do. He gave equally rough treatment to his general-election opponent, Democrat Bill White, the former mayor of Houston, an affable, business-friendly candidate in whom lonely Texas Democrats had invested a great deal of hope and money. It was seek-and-destroy. “Six weeks before she got into the race, there was no way Kay was losing,” says one observer. “Six weeks after she got into the race, there was no way she was winning.” One Hutchison adviser tells of coming out of an early focus-group session convinced that she was dead in the water. “It wasn’t the year to be running against Rick Perry from the left in Texas,” he says.
Perry vs. the Bushes, Perry vs. Washington, Perry vs. the Establishment: That’s potent stuff for racking up votes in Waco and Amarillo, and the conservative suburbs of Dallas and Houston. But it’s not just Perry’s politics — it’s his policy, too.
Here’s something you won’t hear an up-and-down-the-line conservative like Perry saying all that often: “If you don’t like medical marijuana and gay marriage, don’t move to California.” Don’t move to California is a major theme of Texas’s economic-development program, and in fact Californians are moving to Texas at a pretty good clip, as economist Arthur Laffer documented in his report “Rich States, Poor States” (see “Going Alamo,” National Review, July 20, 2009). Perry is content for Californians to let their freak flags fly, though he confesses that he recoils from some of the implications of his hard-line constitutionalism: The thought of flag-burning, for instance, makes Rick Perry one angry Eagle Scout. But his laissez-faire attitude is surprisingly broad, something he has in common with another distinguished governor, Sarah Palin, whose libertarian streak on questions like marijuana use is an underappreciated component of her political character. “Don’t make me accept it as normal,” Perry says, “and do not make me pay for it. But that’s classic Tenth Amendment, and I’ll fight to the death for California’s right to decide for themselves how they want to live.” And then he adds with an earnest, butter-wouldn’t-melt smile: “You want high taxes and an onerous regulatory climate, that’s your choice.” As he says this, he swivels around excitedly in his desk chair, the cuffs of his trousers hiking up to reveal a pair of cowboy boots emblazoned “Liberty” and “Freedom.”
And more with some info relating to the complaints posted regarding Perry:
But it very often seemed that Perry was making a speech better suited to a joint session in Washington than to one in Austin. He called for a federal balanced-budget amendment. He hated on unfunded mandates. He demanded the repeal of Obamacare. And he lavishly excoriated Washington for its refusal to secure the Mexican border: “It’s frustrating that we’re still having these border-security conversations, but Washington remains an abject failure in this area. It is part of that frustrating paradox where Washington neglects their responsibility for areas clearly within their purview, while interfering in other areas in which they’re neither welcome nor authorized.” Perry’s vision for securing the border? National Guard troops to reinforce law-enforcement agencies, 3,000 new border-patrol officers along the Texas stretch, and Predator drones (to provide real-time intel, not to smoke aspiring day-laborers with Hellfire missiles).
It was, in other words, the sort of speech a governor might give if he was thinking about running for president.
“Rick doesn’t want to run for president,” says one longtime ally. “Rick wants to be asked to run for president. He wants to be drafted.” The main obstacle to a Perry campaign, he says, is Perry’s acute political intelligence, which may be telling him he won’t win. “It’s a hard hill to climb for a governor of Texas.” And it’s one that Perry may have made unnecessarily steep for himself. There’s the usual messiness at the intersection of business and politics: The Dallas Morning News reported that at least $16 million from that Emerging Technology Fund went to companies with investors or executives who were Perry donors, and he backed an abortive, boondogglish transportation-infrastructure project known as the Trans-Texas Corridor, which went down in ignominy, largely on opposition from conservatives and property-rights activists. One of the stranger episodes of Perry’s governorship was his signing an executive order mandating the vaccination of sixth-grade girls against the sexually transmitted human papillomavirus (HPV), which causes cervical cancer and genital warts. Though the executive order included an opt-out for parents who objected to the vaccine, the move lit a fire under the Religious Right, which argued that the program was a concession to the culture of promiscuity. It didn’t help matters when it came out that the maker of the vaccine, Merck, was a Perry campaign donor. Perry found himself on the outs with the very conservatives who are his core constituency.
Kay Bailey Hutchison and Bill White both made these featherweight ethical issues central to their campaigns against Perry, with White quick to throw around the word “corruption.” There was nothing manifestly improper or venal about any of this, and in truth nothing much remarkable: If you have a system under which the state awards patronage to private businesses and businesses make campaign contributions, there’s going to be some overlap, and it’s going to look bad. (Cf. Goldman Sachs and Barack Obama.) Perry’s opponents never got much traction with that line of argument, mostly because there isn’t much to it, but Republicans in Austin say that the governor is not eager to relitigate those questions on a national stage. The leading contender against Barack Obama in 2012 is “Generic Republican,” which may give great hope to Mitt Romney but does nothing for Rick Perry, who is a genuine wildcat tea-party threat to the Washington consensus and who as a presidential candidate could be sure to receive blisteringly hostile treatment — not just from the Obama campaign and its media proxies, but also from a fair number of Republicans and from the prep-school establishment he’s built a loyal conservative following by smacking around.
Think of it this way: Barack Obama beat John McCain by less than 10 million votes across the whole country; nearly half that many people have moved to Texas during Rick Perry’s governorship. In the vote-with-your-feet primary, he’s the runaway favorite, a fact that will be of no small consequence if he should decide that the place to fight Washington isn’t Austin, but Washington.
Sorry guys, I know the more effective way is to post something short and simple.
Please, consider the longevity of my previous posts to be in direct proportion to my enthusiasm for Perry as the Republican Presidential Nominee.
Nope
@Bill Burns says
I agree Bill. He will kick O’s Ass. I too was once a democrate many years ago but the democrap party of today is the democrate party of my parents day.
I’m so far right now I walk funny. But at least my head is on straight.
Perry/Bauchman 2012
Meet the man. Speak to him, watch him work a room. If you still like him then it’s a safe bet you’d send money to a televangelist.
Sorry, IS NOT THE DEMOCRATE PARTY OF MY PARENTS DAY.
@Katherine: I sure do hope what you posted is correct about perry. Sadly it is very contradictory to what I have heard so far (him being pro-tax increase and pro-illegal amnesty). And that does not address the abortion issue. But again, I hope what I have heard/read is an incorrect statement of his views. Goodness knows we need more conservative leaders.
Thank you Katherine!
There is no such thing as a perfect candidate. I had some hope for T-Paw but based on his debate performance and quick 180 I have decided he’s weak. Perry is NOT weak. And he is far to the right of Bush. Sure he’s got baggage. But I will
Support him whole-heartedly is he can get the ball rolling.
I would vote for a ham sandwich over BHO.
Thanks again for taking the time to share your post.
@PhotogGR8 says
I like Perry because he shows he has balls. I can’t stand the canadates that beat around the bush and won’t talk to you because their affraid of offending a group. We NEED a strong person and I’m glad Perry is getting in. If for no other reason to get Obsama OUT!
Typos-ugh. Dang iPhone makes these old fingers inept.
@Nana says
EXACTLY Nana.
Funny they left Palin’s name out of the poll. When she is included she ties w/ Romney & no doubt would beat Perry, for name recognition alone.
How has Herman Cain beat around the bush? Bachman?
@PhotogGR8
You have a point but I didn’t say all the canadates beat around the bush but I’m glad Perry is in. I like his Texas style and he will do well given the fact he can’t stand what BO is doing to this country. And a previous post from someone said their is NO perfect canadate and I agree with that. You just need to take a stand and go with it. Better now because if BO gets another 4 years I feel their won’t be a second chance.
Look what that FAKE IN CHIEF has done to this country in 2.5 years. God help us.
Commie!
- Bilderberg Attendee
- TX Chair of Al Gore’s 1988 Prez Campaign
- North American Union Supporter
- Doubled TX debt
- Liar
CommieBlaster, aren’t you on the wrong website. You should be on Huffington Post.
Me thinks your a liberal plant trying to create infighting among the conservative party.
Gee and just WHAT do they support about Chris Christie- that he ……
said illegals are not breaking the law being here
1) a Cap n Tax fan
2) he’s in the “global warming is man made” camp
3 ) that he refused to join other States /Governors in a law suit to over turn ObamaCare
4) that he is against off shore drilling
5) that he against constructing any more nuclear power plants
6) he doesn’t have a problem with the super mosque on Ground Zero
7) endorsed RINO Mike Castle over Christine O’Donnell
9) Christie supports strict and aggressive enforcement of the state’s current gun laws. Including their assault weapon ban, one gun a month
I could go on but I’m getting tired of typing…WHY would any Conservative support this clown ?: He is the same or worse then Romney !
So what is wrong with seeing the truth….I was a Democrat for many years and it became very obvious to me , that I could no longer support the Democratic agenda…the Democratic Party has changed over the years , and the changes are not acceptable me and many people…so if Perry was a Democrat at one time , he is like many before him….I think Ronald Reagan was a loyal Democrat at one time…the fact that a man can change when he knows it is the right thing to do is admirable, not something to be frowned upon….AL
perry/bachman has nice ring
btw… i was damn hippy demorat too, something i have to live with…
Sure, great, marvelous. Let’s put ANOTHER NWO Bilderberger type in the Whitehouse. Un-freaking believable. I am going to start drinking heavily again very soon. We are doomed.
Katherine – Great post! Live in South Texas. Supported Perry in the last election. The rest of the GOP better move aside. Perry is going to be the man and he will kick Obama’s ass. Will obviously vote for him for POTUS.
Well Katherine, I believe you made your point. I never knew my wife was such a cheerleader. The next time I have a business meeting I’ll bring you along.
I’d never vote for Perry. I’d wouldn’t vote for Christie if my life depended on it.
I wouldn’t votefor Romney if Obama was running against him,.
If the GOP recommends another country club elitist I’ll vote third party and so will everyone in my family.
If Obama wins its because the RINO’s can’t get it into their heads that we don’t want Obama Lite.
By the way Pewrry headed one of Al Gore’s primary presidential campaigns as a dhimmirat. Sound conservative to you.
He also is surprising weak supporting Bush’s amnesty. He’s the sort of Yalie conservative that Bush was.
If you met the man you’d know he’s the kind of guy who makes Elmer Gantry sound honest. I wouldn’t trust him alone in my house with a white hot stove and expect to come back and find it as I left it.
“Among Republican voters…”
What about assholes who plan to vote in the primaries – ACORN employees, Mexican nationals, and obama-zombies?
Bartholomew Roberts
CommieBlaster says:
June 22, 2011 at 6:58 pm
- Bilderberg Attendee
- North American Union Supporter
These two points can’t be stressed enough.
Supporting Perry or any other candidate because they have “balls” or know how to work a crowd is what got us in this situation in the first place. Voting records are a hell of a lot of more important than saying the right words at the right time to the right crowd.
what Four More Wars said: These two points can’t be stressed enough.
CommieBlaster says:
June 22, 2011 at 6:58 pm
- Bilderberg Attendee
- North American Union Supporter
Two cents more: Christie -Perry – both RINOs. Leave them in their current jobs.
Bilderberg Attendee …….. Logan Act Violator……… North American Union Supporter … Karl Rove is His Mentor……obama white…http://www.prisonplanet.com/14-reasons-why-rick-perry-would-be-a-really-really-bad-president.html
How about Perry/Soros 2012? Why drag this out?
Perry would obviously love to have his fellow New World Order Globalist, the Jew who helped the NAZIS KILL other Jews during World War II, George Soros as a running mate. (CITATION: George Soros, NAZI COLLABORATOR – 20 December 1998 broadcast of 60 Minutes )
Mr. Perry is a hand picked Globalist scum. A vote for Perry is, for all practical purposes, IDENTICAL to a vote for Barack Obama.
NO EXCUSES!!!!