VA Cemetery Tells Volunteers To Stop Telling Families “God Bless You” During Funerals…
Outrageous.
(Chron) — Local veterans and volunteer groups are accusing Department of Veterans Affairs officials of censoring religious speech — including banning the word “God” — at Houston National Cemetery.
In one example cited in documents filed this week in federal court, cemetery director Arleen Ocasio reportedly told volunteers with the National Memorial Ladies that they had to stop telling the families, “God bless you,” at funerals and that they had to remove the words “God bless” from condolence cards.
The new allegations of “religious hostility” by VA and cemetery officials follow on the heels of a controversy over a prayer in Jesus’ name by Pastor Scott Rainey at a Memorial Day service in the cemetery.
The complaint accuses VA of “a widespread and consistent practice of discriminating against private religious speech” at the cemetery.
Ocasio is on vacation and could not be reached for comment. Her assistant, Amanda Rhodes, said the cemetery had no comment.
According to court documents, Ocasio banned members of the groups from using certain religious words such as “God” or “Jesus,” censored the content of prayer, and forbade the use of religious messages in burial rituals unless the deceased’s family submitted the text to her for prior approval.
Court documents also describe the closure of the cemetery’s chapel after Ocasio’s appointment as director two years ago.
Posted by ZIP on Tuesday, June 28, 2011, at 6:00 pm | 
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Ban the word “Ocasio” from the face of the earth. So let it be written, so let it be done!
I bet they could still say “Allahu Akbar” if they wanted.
Time to de-fund the VA. Are you listening Congress? I say de-fund this organization who can’t even honor our heroes lying in rest.
She probably would approve of them saying “I hope your son or daughter rots in hell for being a warmonger!” though.
Fire this BITCH!!
“….Tells Volunteers….”
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FUCK OFF!
She has the full backing of the Obama Administration.
http://www.harriscountygop.com/eblast/eb052611.asp
Gov. sponsored religious persecution in the age of Obama? But but but he said he is a Christian……
“VA Cemetery Tells Volunteers To Stop Telling Families “God Bless You” During Funerals…”
How`bout if they blink it out in Morris Code?
I’m gonna Google Arleen Ocasio before I make any comments about how she got her position. IYKWIMAITTYD
Another Obama troll to ignore. They can all go to hell as far as I am concerned.
I would use the word God in the retort back to her but its not allowed by my faith.
Despicable Disgrace!
Contact your Congress-Critters ASAP!
Btw…don’t forget to do so after another vacation they have for the 4th…we can’t, this is beneath contempt!
Does Ocasio beat her head into the ground five times and wear a bag?
If the VOLUNTEERS choose not to heed this advice, will they be fired?
And this on the heels of the “controversy” over a Missouri Republican saying liberals hate God.
Is there no respect for the dead by anyone associated with this regime?
Shame on them all.
The VA is merely following the lead of our esteemed President.
Next they will try to remove all the crosses
This Ocasio woman needs to be protested against, early, and often– using the tactics that was used against George W Bush– camp out at HER doorstep etc.
I sincerely hope this isn’t becoming typical, not to mention policy, of the Dept of Veterans Affairs. I personally know some solid Christian folks who work there.
Leonard says:
June 28, 2011 at 6:26 pm
Does Ocasio beat her head into the ground five times and wear a bag?
I hope so. I also hope she will, from now on, confine her rituals to concrete covered with broken glass.
Liberty Institute rock and rolled, there miserable ass’s ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Huge Victories For Free Speech
Big Govt. Tried to Stop Pastor and Valedictorian from Praying in Public
Recently, in two separate cases in Texas, government officials tried to censor and silence private citizens’ religious free speech. On Memorial Day, the Director of the Houston National Cemetery, Ms. Arleen Ocasio, refused to permit Pastor Scott Rainey to pray at the upcoming Memorial Day ceremony unless he removed all references to Christianity and made it inclusive of all beliefs. In a similar case, a federal judge threatened the valedictorian of Medina Valley High School, Angela Hildenbrand, with incarceration if she said a prayer, called upon God or even said the word amen during her valedictory address. See how Liberty Institute took on these government censors and won!
Pastor Scott Rainey Action Video
Angela Hildenbrand Action Video
Yeah Steve, my thoughts too.
Gastorgrab, I had to fire a volunteer once! If I didn’t get rid of the guy I would have lost all my other great volunteers.
This commie witch Arleen Ocasio is pissed:
“This past May, Federal District Judge Lynn N. Hughes granted a temporary restraining order against the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) and its Director of the Houston National Cemetery, Arleen Ocasio.
The order was issued to keep the VA and Ocasio from preventing Pastor Scott Rainey from praying in Jesus’ name during his invocation at a Memorial Day ceremony sponsored by the National Cemetery Council for Greater Houston (a private, non-profit association).
The order was issued because the judge ruled that “such censorship and religious discrimination violates the free speech guarantees of the First Amendment.”
A portion of the restraining order stated:
“The government’s compulsion of a program’s inclusion or exclusion of a particular religion offends the Constitution. The Constitution does not confide to the government the authority to compel emptiness in a prayer, where a prayer belongs.”
Not only did this ruling allow Pastor Rainey to pray in Jesus’ name during the Memorial Day ceremony, but it may have also opened the door to alter the trend of removing any Christian expression from public areas.”
http://www.topsecretwriters.com/2011/06/court-rules-government-can-not-ban-christian-expression/
VA Pastor Told to Remove Jesus’ Name at Memorial Service or Else be Banned
Pastor Scott Rainey planned to deliver a prayer at a Memorial Day ceremony yesterday. There was only one problem: that prayer mentioned Jesus.
To the vast majority of Americans, saying the name Jesus during a prayer would not only be all right, but almost required. However, the Dept. of Veterans Affairs and the Houston National Cemetery, and cemetery director Arleen Ocasio, found the name offensive and moved quickly.
“Our national cemeteries are places for all veterans of all beliefs,” Ocasio wrote in a letter to Mr. Rainey. “We cannot be exclusive at a ceremony meant to be inclusive for all our nation’s veterans.” She added that he had to remove the name of Jesus, “or he would not be allowed to pray.”
She wrote in reference to the last line of Rainey’s prayer: “in the name of Jesus Christ, the risen Lord.”
Rainey was shocked by the letter and Ocasio’s demands. “I have never said a prayer in my life where I didn’t end it by saying ‘in the name of Jesus Christ, I pray, amen,’” he stated.
Mr. Rainey quickly got an attorney, Jeff Mateer, to defend his right to free speech. Mr. Mateer stated:
“It is very clear that a pastor has a right as a private citizen to speak his mind freely and not have the government censor or edit the content of his speech. Our veterans fought and many died for our religious freedom and to have it stripped away under the façade of inclusiveness is the height of offense to those who have served our country.”
In the short term, U.S. District Judge Lynn Hughes has ruled that the Dept. of Veterans Affairs and the Houston National Cemetery cannot order Mr. Rainey to remove the name of Jesus from a religious ceremony.
She wrote that such an order violated the First Amendment.
Yet there are lawyers out there who support the cemetery’s actions. Attorney Geoff Berg stated, “Asking him to be more inclusive is exactly what she should do. That’s the American way. This is a country without a specific religion.”
http://punditpress.blogspot.com/2011/05/va-pastor-told-to-remove-jesus-name-at.html
http://www.wikio.com/themes/Arleen+Ocasio
Arleen Ocasio (281) 447-8686 (extension 206) and e-mail @Arleen.ocasio@va.gov
http://www.guidrynews.com/story.aspx?id=1000025672
Truely a dispicable act of bigotry and discrimination by the boss, she should be fired ASAP. Take your inclusiveness and shove it where the sun doesn’t shine leftards, it’s a grave yard not a bath house or swinger’s club.
Liberals belittle Christian faith….and we fall back.
Liberals try to usurp our gun rights….and we fall back.
Liberals teach our children to hate America….and we fall back.
Liberals steal our tax dollars to redistribute the wealth….and we fall back.
Liberals want gay marriage….and we fall back.
Liberals undermine our Constitution….and we fall back.
Liberals slander good Americans constantly….and we fall back.
Liberals are in bed with terrorists…and we fall back.
Time to stop the retreat and push back.
This insane!
How can you expect someone to obey this completely stupid command.
Funeral services are, or can be very religious in nature.
Only a person who literally hates God would make rule such as this.
And seriously! How on earth does she intend to enforce this stupid rule?
What a giant asshole.
“Asking him to be more inclusive is exactly what she should do. That’s the American way. This is a country without a specific religion.”
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This isn’t Marxism.. This is Baha’i Faith..
It seems like Atheism, but it’s really Universalism
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,807188-1,00.html
Baha’u'llah’s son carried the new teaching to the West and the faith now has some 6,000 followers in the U.S. Center of U.S. Bahaism is Wilmette, Ill., a suburb of Chicago where the strange tracery of the U.S.’s only Bahai temple drew more than 100,000 tourists last year.
Bahais think of their religion as an advance on all others because it encompasses them. They see all great religions and their founders as essentially one. They concentrate their own efforts not on individual salvation but on the achievement of universal peace.“We are one up on Christianity,” says white-haired Leroy loas (pronounced Iowaas), a retired Chicago railroad manager, who serves as secretary general of the international council at Haifa. “Christ never mentioned universal peace in his teachings.” Peace-striving Bahais plug for internationalism (the U.N.) and against treaty arrangements “based on force” (NATO). The sect’s current head, Shoghi Effendi Rabbani, is in his fifties, lives in Haifa with his Canadian-born wife, and presides over a spiritual constituency of some 200,000 Bahais in Europe and Britain, about 1,500,000 in Iran.
But they will allow GAIA,BUDDA, or OBAMA for sure
“Court documents also describe the closure of the cemetery’s chapel after Ocasio’s appointment as director two years ago.
“The doors remain locked during Houston National Cemetery operating hours, the cross and the Bible have been removed, and the Chapel bells, which tolled at least twice a day, are now inoperative,” the complaint reads. “Director Ocasio only unlocks the chapel doors when meetings or training sessions are held at the building. Furthermore it is no longer called a ‘chapel’ but a ‘meeting facility.’ ”
So did some whinny little athiests wacktard turn in a stupid complaint becuase it offended their pissie little ears
Hey ASSWIPE Ocasio!! Your JOB is to insure that we have a plot to be buried in, for our loved ones to visit and say a prayer over, maybe sit in the chapel where it’s peaceful and quite and maybe light a candle. You should be tossed out on your ass and run out of town on a rail. VA you’ve let alot of vets down over the years so just for once get your head out of your asses and do the right thing by us or get a new job working for Georie Soros or something.
“According to court documents, Ocasio banned members of the groups from using certain religious words such as “God” or “Jesus,” censored the content of prayer, and forbade the use of religious messages in burial rituals unless the deceased’s family submitted the text to her for prior approval.”
Well, everyone ought to send her a big FUCK YOU. I want to see her try to stop a burial ceremony when a priest, rabbi or minister begins praying and it just doesn’t meet her requirements. It is NOT HER CEREMONY – she isn’t there or invited anyway – SO IT IS NONE OF HER BUSINESS. This is absurd, and I agree with Sgt Snufyy – she needs to be canned. (off topic in a way, my wife volunteers for a statewide council in NJ for devlopmentally disabled folks – her group is facing an idiot state senator who is trying to write legislation on what he wants them to do – I advised them to tell the guy to go pound sand – they are a private volunteer organization – he cannot in any way tell them what to do).
The thing to do with ALL the people who say you cannot pray or mention the name of GOD or Jesus is to defy them openly and often. When they tell your kids they cannot pray in school, how will they stop them. The ONLY way to be stopped from praying is for the person to stop on his or her own. If this idiot Ocasio said to my face that I could not mention the name Jesus, I would look at her and say, “May Jesus forgive you”. If I were at a meeting with her, I would take the opportunity to somewhere along the line bow my head in silent prayer and cross myself to boot. How will she stop me?
This bitch needs to be run out of town ASAP
Does anyone here know if there was an order from the VA HQ to prohibit the mention of God during ceremonies or by the volunteers? The cemetery director doesn’t appear to be smart or courageous enough to initiate it on her own.
As to the people directly affected, mourners and ministers alike, it seems to me that civil disobedience is indicated…seems to work for the muslims.
I believe Arleen Ocasio’s boss is Steve L. Muro, Under Secretary for VA’s Memorial Affairs.
http://www.va.gov/opa/pressrel/pressrelease.cfm?id=2111
“It gives you the feeling that you’ve got to blend with the earth, and you got to blend with the time.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PCiLaZ4VJU
Steve L. Muro’s boss is Secretary of Veterans Affairs Eric K. Shinseki. REMF
“You’ve probably seen it in the movies at least, the flag folding ceremony. The honor guard with military precision and deep respect carefully fold the US flag that is draped over the coffin of a soldier. Finally the triangle showing only stars is handed to the widow or mother of the fallen hero, and the soldier says a few words to her. This is but one part of a ritual for every soldier, to demonstrate a nation’s gratitude for their service and sorrow at their loss.
Each fold has come to take on a special meaning over the years, although the number is significant only in that’s how many it takes to turn the flag into this triangular bundle. Here’s what each fold symbolizes and means:
1. Life
2. Eternal life
3. Honor and remembrance of veterans
4. Our need to turn to God in times of peril
5. Our country, America
6. Where our hearts lie, in allegiance to the flag
7. Tribute to the armed forces
8. For mothers and for the hope of reunion with the fallen hero
9. Tribute to women, the soul of the country
10. Tribute to fatherhood
11. For the Jew: the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob
12. For the Christian: the triune God father, son, and holy spirit
13. The national motto: In God We Trust.
It was the 11th fold that has caused a controversy
Flag-folding recitations by Memorial Honor Detail volunteers are now banned at the nation’s 125 veterans graveyards because of a complaint about the ceremony at Riverside National Cemetery.
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The National Cemetery Administration then decided to ban the entire recital at all national cemeteries. Details of the complaint weren’t disclosed.
Administration spokesman Mike Nacincik said the new policy outlined in a Sept. 27 memorandum is aimed at creating uniform services throughout the military graveyard system.
He said the 13-fold recital is not part of the U.S. Flag Code and is not government-approved.
The exact complaint is not known, if it was a broad complaint about religion in general, it would be against the fourth last three folds, not just the 11th fold. This complaint specifically targeted Jews and the Jewish religion; the 11th fold specifically refers to the triangular shape symbolizing the bottom of the star of David and speaks both of King David and Solomon.
At the Captain’s Quarters, this story was noted and Ed Morrisey was outraged:
The men whose votes matter most have not taken this news quietly. The parliamentarian for the American Legion has instructed his detail volunteers to ignore the NCA. Two others quoted in the article wonder why one complainant has more weight than the millions of veterans who expect and deserve the ceremony at their funerals. No one has ever heard the complaint despite their many recitals of the ceremony.
His readers responded:
I am a veteran, and I also agree with stopping this part of the ceremony. I served honorably and well to support the Constitution, and nowhere in that document does it say that we are Jews or Christians. That ceremony makes it abundantly clear to those who hear it that the flag represents only Jews and Christians. The rest are ignored.
The flag MUST represent ALL citizens, of whatever religion they profess. WE cannot be inclusive while proclaiming that our national flag is made up of symbols that exclude other religions.
The Constitution makes it abundantly clear that the Government CANNOT recognise any SPECIFIC religion. By associating parts of the flag with Judaism and Christianity, it violates that portion of the Constitution.
I did not serve to protect any religion, nor did I serve to see any religion excluded. I served to protect the rights of ALL citizens to worship as they choose.
I will not stand idly by and see the flag of our nation usurped for a particular religious belief.
-by AW1Tim
We might just as well stop everything and die – someone will be offended over everything. So, hey, let’s just quit.
This is not a religious issue, this is a “chip away at American traditions” issue.
If a soldier does not want the line read (AW1 Tim) so be it but what about the millions in the past and the thousands in the future who did and do?
We have so convoluted the First Amendment that all of us are at risk for losing the right to say anything that someone (and I mean ONE) deems offensive. We need to grow up.
-by j
This reveals two thing. The first is the unwillingness of the ‘offended’ party to speak to the others that are supposedly offending them and politely asking for a change (such as clearing the reading with the family first). Instead they immediately run to Mommy govenment to fix the problem. This indicates a lack of personal courage.
The second thing this reveals is that our gov’t employees willingly accept all complaints as equal and then solve the problem with the regulatory hammer.
-by Lazarus Long
The underlying problem is the desire for some sort of antiseptic and perfect absolute boundary in a area that is messy and undefined. Death and burial are the most spiritual events in human society. The obsession with scrubbing the smallest atomic subparticle of America’s religious history from any level of public life is unrealistic and denies America’s character.
-by Gideon
AW1 Tim, I don’t dispute the requirement of religious neutrality.
I’m suggesting that if they’re using a soldier’s funeral as a vehicle of their protest, the agenda is not a sincere or patriotic one.
Can I give you an analogy? If you have a valid lawsuit on a technical civil matter, you don’t serve the papers on your opponent’s wedding day. It displays an utter lack of class, and reveals that your real intentions aren’t centered on justice, but rather something ugly and spiteful inside of you.
-by Jeff from Mpls
I’m an atheist. What the hell is wrong with religious references at a funeral?
-by Steven Den Beste
The way I see it, they should keep doing the ceremony but should ask if the family wants it or not. My problem is not with changing an arbitrary ceremony, this hasn’t been a part of the flag ceremony at military funerals forever, it’s just something that developed over time.
My problem is that in the news story this seems to be specifically targeting a religion, that the complaint is about particular religion. Here’s the exact text the veterans use when they read off the meanings of the flag for the 11th fold:
The eleventh fold, in the eyes of a Hebrew citizen, represents the lower portion of the seal of King David and King Solomon, and glorifies, in their eyes, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
That’s not endorsing any religion, it’s not in any way presuming the person is a Jew. It’s simply pointing out that this is what the fold symbolizes to someone of that faith and heritage. For someone to take offense at this particularly inoffensive section of a reading is curious, to say the least. To single out Jews would be troubling. But is that was is really happening?
One of the commenters attached the text that he says is the letter sent out to veteran groups regarding the funerals:
Department of Veterans Affairs
Date: September 27, 2007
From: Director, Office of Field Programs
Thru: Each MSN Director
To: Each Cemetery Director
Subj: The Meaning of Each Fold of an Honor Guard Funeral Flag
It has come to my attention that cemeteries may be distributing a handout entitled, “The Meaning of Each Fold of an Honor Guard Funeral Flag” and/or posting the handout in cemetery buildings. I have also learned that our volunteer honor guards may be using the handout as a script and reciting the meaning of the thirteen folds of the flag while the interment flag is folded during the committal service.
There are various versions of the script circulating by anonymous authors. Some of those scripts are religious in nature and also ascribe meaning to the individual folds put into the flag. We have recently received a complaint sent to the President of the United States that there was a gross error in the handout with reference to the 11th fold “…glorifying the Gods Abraham, Isaac and Jacob”.
There are no federal laws related to the flag that assign any special meaning to the individual folds of the flag. The National Cemetery Administration must not give meaning, or appear to give meaning to the folds of the flag by endorsing or distributing any handouts on “The Meaning of Each Fold of an Honor Guard Funeral Flag.”
Effective immediately all national cemeteries are to refrain from distributing any handouts on “The Meaning of Each Fold of an Honor Guard Funeral Flag”; remove any postings from all cemetery buildings and discontinue our VA-Sponsored Volunteer Honor Guards from using the handout as a script at a committal service during the folding of the flag.
The only time the reading of “The Meaning of Each Fold of an Honor Guard Funeral Flag” is authorized in our national cemeteries is when the next-of-kin arranges for military honors with their local VSO and requests the reading during the committal service.
/s/
STEVE L. MURO
He also attached what he claims is the response to the original complaint letter:
DEPARTMENT OF VETERANS AFFAiRS
UNDER SECRETARY FOR MEMORIAL AFFAIRS
WASHINGTON DC 20420
Mr.[redacted]
[redacted]
[redacted]
Dear Mr.[redacted]:
OCT 5 2001
I am replying to your letter to President George W. Bush regarding your concerns about the handout you received at Dallas Fort Worth National Cemetery, which explains the meaning of each fold of an honor guard funeral flag. President George Bush cares about the concerns of those who write to him; however, he cannot respond to every inquiry that he receives. I am responding because I oversee the development and operation of our Nation’s 125 Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) national cemeteries.
Please accept my condolences on the loss of your father. I appreciate you calling our attention to the error in “The Meaning of Each Fold of an Honor Guard Funeral Flag” handout you received at Dallas Fort Worth National Cemetery at your father’s committal service. It is not a VA document. A copy of the document was provided to Dallas Fort Worth National Cemetery and they decided to include a copy in the interment folder that is provided to the next of kin.
Through research, we learned that there are various versions of this document circulating, and we regret that we have no knowledge of who authored the version that you received. We have instructed all of our national cemeteries to discontinue the distribution of this document and any other versions of it.
I hope that this information is helpful to you. Again, thank you for bringing this matter to our attention.
Sincerely,
William F. Tuerk
I notice two things here. First, the complaint was responded to in 2001 which is six years ago. The second is this line in particular from the letter to the vet groups:
We have recently received a complaint sent to the President of the United States that there was a gross error in the handout with reference to the 11th fold “…glorifying the Gods Abraham, Isaac and Jacob”
Assuming this is valid and accurate, I see a few things. First, they refer to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob as gods. Nobody, anywhere does that. Second, it doesn’t specifically say that this complaint was about the mere presence of this quote, but it says that there was a “gross error” in the handout. Was the error calling these patriarchs gods? Or was that a mistake in the quote, and the error is something else that the man complained about? Is the National Cemetary Association of the US military overreacting by commanding the volunteers to stop doing this part of the ceremony?
Again, assuming any of these documents are valid, why did it take six years for the NCA to take action on this complaint? Why are they telling the vets to not have this at all if the complaint was about the wording of one fold? Why did the AP story make it sound like the complaint was about the fold rather than the wording of it?
Too many questions, and too drastic a response by the military.”
http://www.wordaroundthenet.com/2007/10/thirteen-folds.html
Whenever a government lackey invokes the PC terms tolerance, diversity, inclusion, sensitivity, just know something from our culture, history and heritage are about to be eliminated.
In the name of “Tolerance”, public school systems forbid any mention of Christmas or Easter, any acknowledgement that these Christian holy days even exist. They have no such compunction with the recognition of Ramadan, Hanukah or Diwali. When those appear on school calendars and are fully incorporated into curriculums and displayed on school hallway bulletin boards without censorship …. (The Hanukah Menorah is never labeled as the Winter Candelabra) THAT, we are told by the school board, is an acknowledgement that our society, our culture, our nation is swiftly becoming pluralistic. It is a welcoming expression of inclusively, sensitivity and diversity….
The same condo association that would ban a US flag from being flown on U.S. soil would stay silent if someone flew a Mexican or Guatemalan flag….THAT would be a celebration of diversity, a show of “ours being an inclusive, tolerant and welcoming community”, a show of sensitivity and a sign that we are “blending with the time…”
I Am a vietnam vet andi resent any thing that people say sbout aets,We fought for your right to say what you want, But we also have the right and demand it for that reason,GOD shoudl not be kepr out of anyhting even the goverment things.
i think this woman should go back to school and learn therights of americans. i will say anything i want as i fought for that right. and will do it. i dont care what the anti god and anti country people say.
I called the director of the Houston National Cemetery; was told she was out of the office for a week and she was not responsible for this matter; told to call her boss John Rieker at 303 914 5700. His assistant said he was on the other line. She stated I should contact my congress people and the president about this matter. I see that a Federal Judge Hughes gave the VA a deadline to respond to the complaints and a lawsuit has been files by the people with common sense.
The Obama administration is trying to take God out of this country. Sound like communism???
Just read her BIO on line and would’nt you just know it “she’s a native of Chicago, IL!” She has worked at several VA Cemetaries and just can’t understand her attitude.
What’s the likelihood that the VA will blithely ignore the judge’s deadline, and/or tell the judge to go pound sand if the ruling is not to their liking?
Figures she looks like Janet Napoleono, who happens to look like Janet Waco.
The genetic defect that causes radical liberalism, apparently causes characteristic physical traits like other identifiable “syndromes”.
How about the words ‘In God We Trust’ on our money? Oh, almost forgot, the left is working on that too. If they can’t remove the words, they will remove the dollar.
How do you like the Hope & Change now? Anybody that voted for Obama should be very proud of yet another rejection of God and the things that made this country Great.
I think it is past the time to get physical with this bunch of morons and bust a few noses. There are some things that take a good old fashion “ass whippen” to get things straighten out and not have to wait for an election.
What are they going to do to a group of people that go to a funeral service and invoke the name of the Lord, Jesus Christ our Savior, fire them? I think we should just ignore them and go about our services as have been done in the past and if they start any trouble or try to interupt the services, declare war on them right then and there. Knock the crap out of them and let them know they can be found again if they continue to cause trouble.