John Lennon Was A Reagan-Supporting “Closet Republican” Embarrassed By His Anti-War Days At Time Of His Death Says Last Personal Assistant…
This should have liberals jumping off roofs.
John Lennon was a closet Republican, who felt a little embarrassed by his former radicalism, at the time of his death — according to the tragic Beatles star’s last personal assistant.
Fred Seaman worked alongside the music legend from 1979 to Lennon’s death at the end of 1980 and he reveals the star was a Ronald Reagan fan who enjoyed arguing with left-wing radicals who reminded him of his former self.
In new documentary Beatles Stories, Seaman tells filmmaker Seth Swirsky Lennon wasn’t the peace-loving militant fans thought he was while he was his assistant.
He says, “John, basically, made it very clear that if he were an American he would vote for Reagan because he was really sour on (Democrat) Jimmy Carter.
“He’d met Reagan back, I think, in the 70s at some sporting event. . . Reagan was the guy who had ordered the National Guard, I believe, to go after the young (peace) demonstrators in Berkeley, so I think that John maybe forgot about that. . . He did express support for Reagan, which shocked me.
“I also saw John embark in some really brutal arguments with my uncle, who’s an old-time communist. . . He enjoyed really provoking my uncle. . . Maybe he was being provocative. . . but it was pretty obvious to me he had moved away from his earlier radicalism.
“He was a very different person back in 1979 and 80 than he’d been when he wrote Imagine. By 1979 he looked back on that guy and was embarrassed by that guy’s naivete.”
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Expect Yoko to refute this.
My first thought too, MADgirl91. Yoko will definitely fight this story.
I don’t know much about Lennon’s death, but my instinct tells me that this has something to do with it.
(I’m only mostly joking)
You mean he wised up as he grew older? The liberals aren’t going to like that idea. If you think about it, the Beatles were always running from the tax man much like U2 is doing today. All these rich celebrities and corrupt politicians are using leftist ideology as cover.
The story seems plausible to me. His final album, Double Fantasy, was released in 1980 after a five year hiatus during which he quit using drugs and committed himself to his wife and raising his son…The album did not contain any political songs or messages.
Could be the reason he kept splitting up with yoko?
Show me a young Conservative and I’ll show you someone with no heart. Show me an old Liberal and I’ll show you someone with no brains. – Winston Churchill
I HATE when people use that quote. Liberals in Churchill’s days were nothing like today’s pinko-commie-greenie liberals.
The fastest way to turn a liberal into a Conservative is to give them a raise.
There exists an audio recording that I myself have heard but haven’t been able to relocate using search engines, recorded shortly before he was killed in which John Lennon said that he regretted leftism and was against communism. I wish I could find it again, because I’ve known that John Lennon was, at the end of his life a sensible man, for years.
“He’d met Reagan back, I think, in the 70s at some sporting event. . .
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It was a football game. I looked into it last year and the footage of Lennon and Reagan in the same shot was determined to be lost. There is some footage of them separately, however.
Remember, Ronald Reagan co-hosted this event with John Lennon:
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John Lennon on Monday Night Football 1974 – YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ds82Id_GMe8
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Most Liberals are what I call John Lennonists. Their Favorite Song is Imagine and they are doing everything they can to make the Song come true. Nice to see that the man himself changed his spots and regretted doing the song in later life.
Imagine all the liberals
Living for the lie…
(that I sold them to make lots of money, because baby I’m a capitalist at heart)
A bunch of smelly, dumb hippies
Stuck in the past
Imagine theres no liberals,
No marxists,
No socialists,
No commieeess,
I hope someday you’ll join us
And the USA will be as one…
You may say that I’m a dreamer
But I’m not the only one
Zilla
Please forward it to me if you ever come across it.
There are previous indications that John Lennon had a nasty Libertarian streak.
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“We can have figureheads, and we can have people that we admire and like to have standing up and all that. We can have examples… But leaders is what we don’t need.”
“The idea of leadership is a false god.”
- John Lennon
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Fred Seaman had better start guarding his gonads. The commies/libs/socialists/Dems are going to drag him across hot coals, dig into his personal life and smear him with everything they can find.
The only cut on Lennon’s final album that isn’t a love song is the tune, “Watching the Wheels”, which is a song about getting older and finding that you are no longer the same man you once were…It ends with the line, “I just had to let it go”.
Doesn’t surprise me.
And the world makes sense again.
Ringo: It ends with the line, “I just had to let it go”
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That’s the line that got him killed. According to Mark Chapman, he felt that Lennon had abandoned him.
At the end of the Catcher in the Rye, the main character, Holden Caulfield, winds up at a merry go round in Central Park. Confused and depressed, he breaks down.
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gastorgrab,
That’s right…”No longer riding on the merry go round, I just had to let it go”
“This should have liberals jumping off roofs.”
One can only hope.
Jethro says:
June 29, 2011 at 10:35 am
“The fastest way to turn a liberal into a Conservative is to give them a raise.”
Or let them get mugged.
Holy headbangers batman the liberals are going to beat their brains out over this
If this is true, I expect many liberals will go bonkers. After all, Imagine is an anthem to many of them. I never liked the song, I thought it was phony baloney. The line “imagine no possesions” in particular, given that Lennon was living in one of the swankier addresses in Manhattan. And as a Christian I never cared for the “imagine no religion” line.
It does sound plausible, though. Lennon was a guy who was always seeking and questioning, and it could be he took a cold hard look at what he and other leftists believed and started to doubt their narrative. I was a liberal Democrat once, and once I started questioning and looking into things I became a conservative after a few years. Maybe Lennon experienced the same thing?
I wonder how many years after he moved to the US this started sinking in.
Betcha this will be all over CNN tonight
Its heresay
Not surprising, even Arlo Guthrie has come out as a republican.
Proud Infidel: “The line “imagine no possessions” in particular, given that Lennon was living in one of the swankier addresses in Manhattan.”
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But taken in abstract form it could have a much different meaning. Maybe the song was about freedom from a certain point of view.
“Imagine no possessions” – According to the Republican form of government, wealth is not any measure of freedom. In fact, a poor man can be just as free as a rich man as long as they both receive “equal protection under the law”. The rule of law is a guarantee of means, not of ends.
“Imagine no religion” – According to the Republican form of government, ‘morality’ is not something that a central planner should decide. That right is reserved for the people to decide for themselves. If religion is ever made into a binding contract, it loses all it’s value. Morality, for the most part, depends upon people freely choosing to “do the right thing”. If they are forced to do the right thing, then no lesson is learned.
It all depends on how you look at things.
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“even Arlo Guthrie has come out as a republican.”
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Yup, in 2006.
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One of the funniest things to come out of the ’70′s was
NATIONAL LAMPOON’S “RADIO DINNER” (1972) piece
called “Magical Misery Tour” (Genius Is Pain) – an almost
word-for-word 1971 Rolling Stone interview with a bitter
John Lennon set to music by Tony Hendra.
Long before Lennon achieved ‘sainthood’…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clkX-x5UOK8
I bought this album when it came out but sadly, it was never released on CD.
Just because he liked Reagan or preferred him to Carter doesn’t automatically make Mr. Lennon a “closet Republican.” Why do so many people believe everybody has to be stuffed inside one category or the other?
gastorgrab: “If they are forced to do the right thing, then no lesson is learned.”
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Example: The warden of a maximum security penitentiary tries to make sure that all inmates “do the right thing”. The warden is the central planner in this case.
But do we judge the inmates to be ‘good people’ as a result of their compliance to a mandate?
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“Why do so many people believe everybody has to be stuffed inside one category or the other?”
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I have no such confusion. But for a long time i have felt that John Lennon had a strikingly different set of beliefs that the people that followed him. Did they misunderstand him, or did he misunderstand them.
I also believe that if Republicans wanted to more closely resemble their label, they should embrace a more Libertarian existence.
John Lennon, because of his fame, took an unusually long time to grow up. Some of the ideas he began to express later in life were simply the natural conclusion to things. Maybe if he would have lived another 150 years, he could have evolved into an uptight stereotype of a Republican, but i doubt it.
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Paul McCartney is still an Obama-lovin’ asshole though.
Interesting and surprising, if true. I guess we will never really know. But it does make sense for someone’s thinking to evolve as they get older, if they have any critical thinking skills at all.
“John Lennon Was A Reagan-Supporting “Closet Republican”…….”
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“The dream is over,
What can I say?
The dream is over
Yesterday
I was the dreamweaver,
But now I’m reborn.
I was the walrus,
But now I’m John.
And so dear friends,
You just have to carry on
The dream is over.”
- John Lennon
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Proud Infidel says:
June 29, 2011 at 11:50 am
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“It does sound plausible, though. Lennon was a guy who was always seeking and questioning, and it could be he took a cold hard look at what he and other leftists believed and started to doubt their narrative. I was a liberal Democrat once, and once I started questioning and looking into things I became a conservative after a few years. Maybe Lennon experienced the same thing?”
This is me to a T as well. Anyone who has read anything Ive posted on here can see Im fiercely conservative, yet I came from the other side. I think People like You, Lennon, myself… want the world to be a better place, fantasize about it, etc.
Then one day we wake up and said “theres got to be a better way” and go seeking. My seeking began when I decided to prove Rush wrong on everything he said…. and couldnt. If you cant ever look at yourself and say “man I was totally wrong on that”, then you are truly lost.
gastorgrab,
I have a more straightforward view of it. If you follow the lines in the song, there’s no doubt in my mind he was not talking about a Republican form of government. He was expressing a leftist utopian view. No possesions, no religion, all the people the same, etc.
He may have wised up in the last few years of his life, though. The song was written in 1971 at the height of his “counter culture” days.
I gotta admit, I’m still a young ‘un and haven’t really followed the history of John Lennon as much as y’all have, so the caption to this thread surprised me a great deal. I think I sprained my eyebrows from raising them too fast.
I can only imagine what liberals will do when they hear the King of the Hippies renounced his tree-hugging, anti-war ways and leaned more to the right towards the end.
“But if you go carrying pictures of chairman Mao
You ain’t going to make it with anyone anyhow”
The roots of it were always there.
“If you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao, you ain’t gonna make it with anyone anyhow.”
–John Lennon, 1968
Thanks, John, for coming around even better to that later. This is good news.
If only Paul McCartney would grow up. But he’s always been the establishment approval seeker, even now when the establishment Communists.
Yoko or McCartney will soon declare this is a publicity stunt by the assistant and deny that John was a “closet” Republican.
No doubt in 2042 Obama , will be called a Patriot …….If true? JL the Rino.
Proud Infidel: “I have a more straightforward view of it. If you follow the lines in the song, there’s no doubt in my mind he was not talking about a Republican form of government.”
“He may have wised up in the last few years of his life, though. The song was written in 1971 at the height of his “counter culture” days.”
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The tone of the article tends to lean that way too.
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I think that John Lennon always was a different brand of leftist than he is historically been seen as. While the major push of leftism in the late 1960′s was consistent with the views of International Socialism, i see Lennon as more of an Anarchist. I don’t think he cared for unchecked authority in any form.
While he was cozy with the major leftists of the time and supported some of the movements, i don’t believe he was ever completely comfortable with the idea of government having absolute control of everything.
That much is consistent with what i know of the man.
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The problem with this story is and will be the fact that Fred Seahouse was charged and convicted of stealing bags and bags of Lennon’s personal items including his journals. The left will use that as the basis to discredit the claim.
I don’t doubt that Lennon had a change of heart in regards to politics, he’d said as much in a radio interview, that he had begun to see through the bullshit disguise of the radicals that were attaching themselves to him and becoming hangers on. Jerry Reubans in particular, he felt was only interested in setting himself up with the same excesses that he was railing against publically…much the same way Che’ and Castro did in Cuba. Lennon was a really sharp guy and this revelation comes as no surprize to me.
“Imagine no possessions, I wonder if you can!” said the multimillionaire capitalist.
“But if you go carrying pictures of chairman Mao
You ain’t going to make it with anyone anyhow”
That always struck me …
You can attach it to today with those idiots that insist on Che T-shirts and other Che poster/crap. As if the picture of the guy is somehow lifting themu up into some elitist hierarchy of political intelligence that others will somehow exult them for.
“But if you go carrying pictures of chairman Mao
You ain’t going to make it with anyone anyhow”
Lennon said at the time that the song was RUSHED and
he couldn’t think of anything better at the time. He also
said that the line was “a cop out”.
Hate to break the news to y’all, but Reagan does not represent the Republican establishment. Lennon may have been for Reagan, but that does not mean that he bought into the whole Republican BS.
I have to admit that this has conflicted me for many years. I’ve always wondered what Lennon would be like if he were still around. How could someone be so wise and so wrong at the same time? I feel relieved.
Liberalism is one thing, and Leftism is another. I guess Lennon was wise enough to figure that out.
and let’s not forget Frank Zappa considered himself a conservative.