NY Times On Debt Deal: “Nearly Complete Capitulation To The Hostage-Taking Demands Of Republican Extremists”…
A preview of what’s to come tomorrow, courtesy of The NY Times, which just posted this editorial.
(NY Times) — There is little to like about the tentative agreement between Congressional leaders and the White House except that it happened at all. The deal would avert a catastrophic government default, immediately and probably through the end of 2012. The rest of it is a nearly complete capitulation to the hostage-taking demands of Republican extremists. It will hurt programs for the middle class and poor, and hinder an economic recovery.
It is not yet set in stone, and there may still be time to make it better. But in the end, most Democrats will have no choice but to swallow their fury, accept the deal, and, we hope, fight harder the next time.
For weeks, ever since House Republicans said they would not raise the nation’s debt ceiling without huge spending cuts, Democrats have held out for a few basic principles. There must be new tax revenues in the mix so that the wealthy bear a share of the burden and Medicare cannot be affected.
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“For weeks, ever since House Republicans said they would not raise the nation’s debt ceiling without huge spending cuts,……”
But they settled for measly cuts amortized over 10 years that don’t amount to a fart in a hurricane.
Ladies and Gentlemen…we have officially been screwed!!!!!
The NYT is giving props to Obama.
I’m sure they all will be invited to the birthday bash.
“The predictable results of this are as follows:
(1) There will be more angry White people.
(2) The political class will lose more of its legitimacy.
(3) Washington and the Republican establishment will take another haircut in their authority.
(4) As the economy continues to deteriorate, the Tea Party will experience a second wave of growth, as the perception will increase that Washington does nothing but spend money while lecturing the country.
(5) Undoubtedly, as we head further down the slope to the bottomless pit of national decline, the taxpaying class will become ever more resentful of having to pay for the tax consuming class.
(6) To the extent Obama caved, the Left will be furious with him, and their disenchantment with him will only grow from here.
(7) The GOP will fracture on its right; the Democrats will fracture on their left.
(8) Look for black people and illegal aliens to act out in some way.
(9) The states will continue to their long term drift away from the policies of the federal government.”
Hunter Wallace
bingo!
Not gonna happen in either chamber…ya gotta love it though, too much fun!
…so far.
Meanwhile the national debt will be $16 trillion in January 2013. Any R who vote yes to this must face immediate primary challenge.
I know they keeep saying no third party, but I ‘m starting to feel like throwing my lot in with the tea party and to hell with the rest of them.
Molon Labe:
Listen to Rush tomorrow to see how the country is feeling about the GOP.
I say screw the Republican Party – the party of compromising with the Commiecrats who didn’t compromise with the Republican Party at all during Obama’s first 2 years.
Eff the Republican Party!
Up with the Tea Party!
Keep Honkin I’m Reloading says:
July 31, 2011 at 10:36 pm
“…(9) The states will continue to their long term drift away from the policies of the federal government.”
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The sooner the better. The states need to extricate themselves from the stranglehold of the federal “nanny” government.
@ Sickofobama….
OOOHRAH!!!!
@Molon Labe
Welcome to the Tea Party.
p.s. I should have said, “killer nanny”. Much more accurate descriptive.
@Sentinel….thank you I feel suddenly very much at home. : > )
Oh, the tears of unfathomable sadness! Mmm-yummy!
What happened to Allen West? Did he drink the Kool Aid so soon?
I wonder if Allen West regrets his early defection to Tea Party principles?
…Plus, is this enough to dissuade Moody’s and S&P to downgrade our credit rating?
The NYT just shouted their Liberal drivel? Let me take out my earplugs
and see what they shout tomorrow….just after I put them back in, again.
Keep your googly eyes on the CBC tonight and tomorrow. They’re
sacrificing chickens and drinking Santeria punch tonite…..and may
embarrass the hell out Bam-Bam yet before this is a done deal.
Sorry, English is my second language and ‘bad’ English is my first.
Should read …”from Tea Party principles?”
and …”from downgrading our credit rating?”
Liberal outrage will never be the same again after this. They’ve used up every derogatory comparison in existence to get this far.
Now what do Liberals do? Won’t everyone think that all future complaints are anti-climactic after this experience?
How can they possibly find an analogy worse that what they’ve already used?
- Suicide bomber
- Terrorist
- Right-wing extremist
- Hostage taker
- Christian fundamentalist
- God Hates The Tea Party!
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Ok ladies & gents,
Get a few bucks clear and take a conceal and carry course. My sister whose 63 has her card. I’m getting mine.
Primary every RINO. It’s time. This is as close to term limits as we can, for now.
I say push term limit legislation with your state representatives. They have the power to make our national parties taxable in your state. Such as; tax exemptions are lost by the national parties if they don’t institute term limits.
Turn out the dems november 2012.
Go tea party.
Ya right NYT-pubs got screwed-more class warfare nonsense-pfft
West?
LOL he is useless-so disappointing
NYT: don’t you own a thesaurus? The “extremist” term is so 2010.
@gastorgrab
Don’t forget Hobbit!!!!
West called us “people” schizophrenic for not supporting to his caving to boner
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bw10euwJY3g
I hope the janitors are pulling double time at the NY Times offices tonight because I guarantee there are a lot of heads exploding from the rage.
This deal sucks but not for the reasons the NY Slimes is claiming. It sucks becaue it does nothing to fix this insolvent country. Fuck them.
crazy world,
to save our AAA ratings, we have to get into more massive debt,
that we will never possibly pay back…
is china/japan dumb enuf to continue to be our creditor to worlds biggest credit card borrower
Downgrade is coming…and so is the end of the Bush Tax Cuts.
Congress just arranged the deck chairs……but, wait!
Why are the chairs now all sliding starboard?
@gastorgrab
“How can they possibly find an analogy worse that what they’ve already used?
- Suicide bomber
- Terrorist
- Right-wing extremist
- Hostage taker
- Christian fundamentalist
- God Hates The Tea Party!”
RACIST is their last card to play and they are already wearing that card out FAST
@Merrimac…
Sounds like Laura Ingraham drank a big glass of kool Aid as well!
Relax NYT! The “Stockholm Syndrome” will soon kick in…..and calm
seas will return….EXCEPT in the CBC…Bam’s Praetorian Guard.
More BS in that little bit of article than I can fathom. People are complaining about 1 trillion in cuts over 10 years (which won’t happen) when we are spending a 1.6 trillion deficit this year alone. Stupidity in this issue knows no bounds.
Form that third party and you may as well vote for Obama in 2012.
whenever Washington wants to appear like they are doing something tough, they form bipartisan commisions, study groups, put triggering mechanisms in place, etc. lots of heat and light but it amounts to an immediate big jump in the credit limit and perhaps some measly phony cuts somewhere down the line.
Big Bam appeared before us today. (Burrrrpppp). Was he wearing a Cardigan sweater, or speaking about “malaise? Probably not…. . but he was eating
peanuts….and Carney was on his knees picking up the shells.
@keephonking
“(5) Undoubtedly, as we head further down the slope to the bottomless pit of national decline, the taxpaying class will become ever more resentful of having to pay for the tax consuming class”
That is it in a nutshell-thank you
“Obama STILL gets my vote in 2012!”(Patrice Lumumba)……..waiting
to hear from Tupac, Che, and Willie Horton.
@Molon Labe
I never listen to Ingraham but she seems like a caterer to her guests
On the flip side I do listen to Savage and he hates any politician he extends an olive branch to if they don’t reciprocate to his satisfaction
Maybe he is right
If I start a blog I doubt anyone will visit it will just be rambling God Country and getting back to the land stuff-with alot of anger
lol what the heck right?
Looks like we need to make the T party a reality soon.
And get rid of the decafs-i.e. West any other cavers
Maybe we should all just quit?
Merrimac–
The night is young. Post some more.
We must change the party leadership to reflect what must be done not 10 years of nonsense. Bonehead needs to be replaced NOW not next week NOW! This country is doomed between commies on the left and sheep on the right we are doomed.
“Fareed Zakaria accused the Tea Party of being ”fundamentally anti-democratic“ and guilty of ”an extraordinary act of hostage-taking.”
I guess the talking point word of the day is ‘HOSTAGE TAKING.’
Lol MaryfromM it isnt young here
Why pay attention to an unattributed editorial?
I have noticed alot of ‘editorials’ have no authors lately
@MaryfromMarin
post more doesn’t sound too charitable
maybe I read it wrong but ‘bury yourself with your posts’ seems like the message unless I am wrong
Obummer looks both evil and ill in this photo.
.
“Just_Saying says:
August 1, 2011 at 12:52 am
Obummer looks both evil and ill in this photo.”
GOOD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owzhYNcd4OM
Seems to me that the long coming political confrontation between Patriot and Tory is dawning. Perhaps it’s time to quote perhaps my favorite founder, Mister Samual Adams-
No people will tamely surrender their Liberties, nor can any be easily subdued, when knowledge is diffused and Virtue is preserved. On the Contrary, when People are universally ignorant, and debauched in their Manners, they will sink under their own weight without the Aid of foreign Invaders.
Source: letter to James Warren, 4 November 1775.
and now
If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.
Philadelphia State House, August 1, 1776
“Obummer looks both evil and ill in this photo.”
And he looks like his White side has come out.
Why do they feel the need to lighten the pictures of O’BooBoo and The First Fat Ass? They don’t even like Whites.
“We will bury you without firing a shot.”
Lemme see if I’ve got this straight: According to the Times, the deal features the following points:
1. Repubs agreed to raise the debt “ceiling” by a massive $2.8 Trillion, which is more than the Dems had even asked for;
2. The Repubs agreed to do this all in one swoop, which takes it off the table as a pro-GOP, anti-Dem issue for the 2012 elections;
3. The Dems *ostensibly* agreed to cut a Trillion, or $1.2, or $1.7, or eleventy trillion dollars from future budgets–depending on which paragraph you read–but the cuts are to be at some vague future date, and NO PENALTY WILL ADHERE
[ham-fingered a mystery key] …will adhere to any Dem if the cuts aren’t made on schedule.
Is this what the Times is bitching and moaning about? Geez, seems to me that the Repubs–as we all predicted–caved in on every point save one: No tax increases. Yeah, that’s fine, but I would far rather have only given the Dems a small bump in the ceiling, so we could debate this *endlessly* in June, July, August of 2012.
Lord, I hope House republicans will kill this–but I doubt they can.
Republicans “hostage-taking demands” vs. Democrats “few basic principles”. Yeah, no bias there.
Oh, they think THIS is extremist?? They’re going to be positively apoplectic if we take over the three chambers in 2012 and pull the same shit to wind back these last years of shame and turmoil that they did to push it forward. Fuck them and their base. Fucking moron losers!
The real winners were the corporate jet owners.
RULE 1: The Left always lies.
REMINDER 1: The NYT is far Left.
Thus, the Dems and Obama get to spend what they wished for up to and including the 2012 election. Do they really care if spending “cuts” of a few hundred trillion are projected for 2019? Dupes.
The American people have been bamboozled and hoodwinked once again-we are played for fools by ALL politicians. NYT propaganda machine spinning this to hold the Republicans to blame when the enevitable happens–
“There must be new tax revenues in the mix so that the wealthy bear a share of the burden.”
Says who ?
How many fucking times do these assholes need to be shown the numbers proving that the wealthy (top 1-5%) already bear 60 to 40% of the burden ?
How many times ?
If you want a gainfully employed public producing revenues then leave these people alone
Poor ol’ NY Times, but hey, keep it up. At least you have a solid trend.
Circulation;
2009 = 1,039,031
2011 = 876,638
Down 162,000 and counting.
It isn’t enough that there are less tax payers in this country than not. It isn’t enough that the highest earners pay 86% of ll taxes. How about if the Libs that make the big money and have got to see the wealthy pay more just write a bigger check to the IRS and STFU.
All those so-called representatives that talked a good game and then bent over for the enemies of America must go!
Primary and get rid of every single one of them. That includes West, Noem, and so many others.
West, especially, after talking about knowing of the cloward-piven plot and then stabbing those who elected him in the back..nice, eh?
We the people are now at the point of no taxation without representation. Where is OUR representation? The house of the American people is going to throw away their responsibilties to some BS commission until 2013, WTF! That is crazy in droves as they will set up a bi-partisan committee, yeah right! all even on each side though the house has more repubs and thus more representation. Evil conniving POSs all..
Let’s think about these numbers a second, keeping in mind that our ‘budget’ for 2011 is around $3.8 TRILLION.
We’ve been told the government receives about $200B/month in revenues, or $1.2 Trillion for 6 months. Obama’s debt increase lifeline is $900 Billion, which they estimate he’ll burn through in 6 months.
That means that in 6 months they’ll have spent $2.1 Trillion dollars, or at the rate of $4.2 Trillion/year.
That’s only an increase of 10%/ per anum!
Way to go John!!
Throw in Defense cuts to boot!! It’s like Xmas in July!!
Let’s all take a cue from Pres Reagan. Cheery optimism, belief in America and determination are what work. So I’d like to see us Tea Partiers (and I am one) take a victory lap, celebrate what we have accomplished and plan our next moves.
Read today’s WSJ editorial “Barack Obama the Pessimist”.
“By that Reagan standard, Mr Obama has been a singular failure. The crippling truth of the Obama presidency is the pessimism of the man, the low expectations he has for this republic. He had not come forth to awaken this country to its stirring first principles, but to manage its decline at home and abroad.”
We know we are better than that. We know he’ll be gone in 2012 because we will make it happen. Americans don’t like pessimists.
The only good thing that came out of all of this and as others here have commented as well is the fact that after the dust settles the nation will know who the fools and frauds are that both supported and voted for this. Judgement day will come in the next election cycle and it wont be pretty.
Along with applying for my concealed carry permit this very day I am also going to, and I encourage you to do the same, exercise my prayer bones and ask God to help us get out of this mess that we allowed ourselves to get into while we didn’t pay attention for the past, oh, quarter century or so.
We are not powerless, people. We’ve just been told we are for so long that we’ve started to believe the worms. Time to stand up and take our power back. Government by the people, for the people worked just fine for a long time, and Communism and Socialism never did, no matter how much our lazy European neighbors want us to think it did.
Barack Obama is insignificant. He is nothing but a hired drive by shooter doing his best to destroy whats good about our country because he has some psychotic problems probably stemming from his childhood that encourage his seething hatred. But he isn’t brilliant. He isn’t cultured. He doesn’t even have the benefit of being a nice guy. And please, spare me on the threats of violence if he is removed from office. He is a cancer on the body politic and we will have it out. (And the same goes for every other elected official that wants to follow in his footsteps.)
Only in Washington is a “balanced budget” considered extreme. Idiots.
“But in the end, most Democrats will have no choice but to swallow their fury, accept the deal, and, we hope, fight harder the next time.”
How’s it taste? Everyone non-Democrat has been swallowing their fury for some time now. Oh, since 2008, at least. Thus, the Tea Party.