No Joke: New Report Claims Global Warming Linked To Rise In Mental Illness…
So we can blame the global warming fear mongers rabid paranoia on mental illness? Makes sense to me.
(Sydney Morning Herald) — RATES of mental illnesses including depression and post-traumatic stress will increase as a result of climate change, a report to be released today says.
The paper, prepared for the Climate Institute, says loss of social cohesion in the wake of severe weather events related to climate change could be linked to increased rates of anxiety, depression, post-traumatic stress and substance abuse.
As many as one in five people reported “emotional injury, stress and despair” in the wake of these events.
The report, A Climate of Suffering: The Real Cost of Living with Inaction on Climate Change, called the past 15 years a “preview of life under unrestrained global warming”.
“While cyclones, drought, bushfires and floods are all a normal part of Australian life, there is no doubt our climate is changing,” the report says.
“For instance, the intensity and frequency of bushfires is greater. This is a ‘new normal’, for which the past provides little guidance. . .
“Moreover, recent conditions are entirely consistent with the best scientific predictions: as the world warms so the weather becomes wilder, with big consequences for people’s health and well-being.”
HT: Jay
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How about this: “The belief in global warming is linked to mental illness.”
They’re really getting desperate now.
Yes joke. They just don’t know it, but we do.
The big problem is the thrill-seeking media presenting every gust of wind as a tornado and every drop of rain as a flood. e.g., Irene
This will not end until we spend trillions of dollars of tax payer money to study this further.
Well, I guess it’s true, you can worry yourself sick. What’s the name of this new epidemic gonna be? Manic Climatitus?
Cynic.. that’s right.. its the other way around.. sigh..
“…loss of social cohesion”?
I’ll use that as my next reason for extended welfare benefits…
The bodyguard in front doesn’t look like a descendant of Ismael to me. Some idiot European or American convert, no doubt.
Al Gore has given me the crabs…and I am not fond of shellfisch.
Global Warming is the cause of all that plagues the Earth. My 8 year old granddaughter said brussel sprouts are caused by Global Warming.
My kids are literally rofltao.
Is that why Gore’s crazier than a shithouse rat?
Just can’t stand it. Head freaking explosion.
Al is beyond reproach!…just ask his masseuse, or Tipper,
or even Blow Job Willie….if you dare.
Al fondles himself as he reads of global disasters on his com-
puter. Bill Clinton just fondles himself 24/7. And Hillary don’t
pay it no mind. She knows how one gets “genital warts”.
I wondered why I had a black dog day immediately after the temperature dropped to a coold Minus 4 with snowfallsaccompanying . Always believed my loss of ‘social cohesion’ came only in extreme hot weather ! Wonder what other new anthropgenic caused calamaties these researches will discover and which will be picked up & reported on by an agenda driven, biased Press.
I think it would be simpler for everyone involved if Gore made a list of what problem in the world WAS NOT caused by global warming. Maybe he would produce a blank piece of paper. Nut cake.
Unfortunately, there must be an evil reason behind this. It is impossible for even statists to be so lunatic on such a sustained basis.
This could lead to other “arguments” for why Global Warming must be controlled.
Ah, you know the Left are getting desperate when they begine their low-level fear-mongering campaigns. How low can they go? How low can they go?
Gore: Global warming skeptics are this generation’s racists:
One day climate change skeptics will be seen in the same negative light as racists, or so says former Vice President Al Gore.
http://dailycaller.com/2011/08/28/gore-global-warming-skeptics-are-this-generations-racists/
Well, I don’t know. There must be some reasonable explanation for all of these savages and leeches in our society, you know, blacks, illegals and liberals. El Nino? It’s a dilemma.
Get. A. Life. Al.
Sometimes the campaign ads write themselves, eh?
Can’t you just see the television commercials now:
Are you are someone you know bat-shit crazy, slightly looney, or somewhat stressed out? You may be entitled to compensation. Here at Algoresnuts, Shitscience, and Turtlehuggers, our attorneys are standing by to sue those evil capitalists on your behalf…….
In the case of Al Gore, I have no doubt he has warmed his globals to the degree of illness……
Scramble the words of the article’s title around, and you have “Rise in mental illness linked to global warming claims”…….makes WAY more sense. Translation: global warming claims are the DIRECT result of mental illness.
The new report is true.
Anyone who believes in global warming is mentally deranged.
Anyone who believes Algore is not in it to make money is seriously mentally deranged.
the big horned gooney bird from tennessee is having a hissey fit and wants the world to participate in making him king of the socialist enviromental lunatics.
Big Al is right ,all of the Co2 is coming out of the mouths of crazy people so Big Al please close your big mouth …
I get mentally ill just hearing the lies these liberal socialists spout. It makes my brain hurt trying to understand their drivel. So I guess the study is valid.
Global temperatures increase and decrease over time. Reference an event called The Ice Age. It’s been warming for the past 20,000 years and I have no doubt another ice age will occur in the distant future.
It’s absurd for people to think….gee, we’re too stupid to balance the budget, yet we have the intelligence to control global climate. Morons.
‘As many as one in five people reported ”emotional injury, stress and despair” in the wake of these events.’
Are These the SAME people that the American Psychiatric Assoc have been ‘Reporting’ in their ‘Studies’ for at least twenty years????
Are suffering from some Mental Illness?
Also, the SAME people that View themselves as Liberal? 21%
THAT’S JUST EMPIRICAL! You GWA Racist!
Alarms are going off in my head that Algore is the demon seed we have been warned would try to sell us twine to hang ourselves with.
I agree with Hammer. Personally, I get mentally ill and depressed having to listen to Al Gore and Obama, who appears almost daily. It was so nice when Gore was laying low after his problem with the massage therapist and we didn’t have to hear from him. After hearing Obama for two days in a row because of the hurricane, today he will appear again announcing someone new on his economic team. I can’t take it!!! Stay off the air!!!
Maybe he’s had to downgrade his Gulf Stream, you know, one with an unpressurized cabin?
And we can be pretty sure that all those claiming such maladies will be liberal democrats.
In addition to all their other mental issues they are on medication for.
RTS
Now there’s a headline that makes sense if I’ve ever seen one. Case closed.
VOTE – 2012
That’s not exactly correct. It’s the BELIEF in global warming that causes mental problems. Just look at Algore!
When scientists can accurately predict a hurricane 2 days in advance I’ll be more inclined to believe they can accurately predict weather 100 years in the future.
Why isn’t shyster Gore in a cell next to Bernie Madoff? Gore caused billions of public tax dollars to be wasted on pointless and unproven schemes. He collected a fortune in the carbon offset business. Bernie is probably a saint compared to Gore.
Is ‘Climate Psychology’ a brand new field of science????
What are the requirements?
The greenshirts have collectively lost their marbles long, long ago.
I love this picture of Man-Bear-Pig. It shows proof positive that he is the genius the democrats claim he is. Notice the control of his emotions, that’s a sure sign of genius. Spittle flying is another. Never get a front row seat at either a Gallagher show, or a Man-Bear-Pig speech. Plastic sheeting required.
Gore: Scientists Wouldn’t Lie for Money to Advance Global Warming Theory – But Skeptics Would
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2011/08/27/gore-scientists-wouldnt-lie-money-advance-global-warming-theory-skept
Enviromentalism is a mental illness and they need a cure called COMMON SENSE
In my research I have discovered that pigs will sproutwings and start flying around. I’m hoping to obtain a research grant because I think I can prove that it will be caused by climate change! :-$
I really hate to tell you guys but this report is right on! I have deduced,with absolutely no scientific study that the global warming or climate change fantasy has had it’s first ill effects on it’s biggest proponent and his followers;they’re just trying to warn us not to get as nuts as they are.
I see plenty of evidence for mental illness related to global warming every time this site posts anything about global warming. I’d call all you Denialists delusional if that wasn’t an insult to delusional people, who at least try to maintain some coherence in their fantasy worlds.
I think, since you all apparently believe in the 50 year-long global enviro-Marxist conspiracy theory, with all Climate Scientists and Al Gore trying to hijack the world economy, I figure you people are somewhere between paranoid schizophrenics and schizotypal. Only problem is, I can’t believe you people were ever sane.
So in yall’s world, I always wondered, what color is your sky?
Regarding incoherent, disorganized thought- I see a photo of Al gore above. I see many references to him also. What I don’t see is any relation to Al Gore and this study. I also don’t see anyone above wondering why this picture and this story were juxtaposed. I assume it’s because the picture has served it’s purpose- triggered some kind of tribal rage you people harbor towards Democrats.
May I offer, if there is a single open mind here, that I always hear that global warming is politicized by the left, but this posting is an excellent example of quite the opposite. Here a mention of a study is simply co-located with one of yall’s political enemies, and simple as Pavlov’s dogs, on comes the slobber and off goes the brain.
@thanes–
You don’t see any relationship between a photo of Al Gore and the issue of Global Warming?
The color of our sky is blue. I can’t say what the color of the sky is on whatever planet you came from.
The work of thousands of scientists over 120 years, world-wide endorsement by every national science academy, and the evidence before your very eyes of extreme, deadly, and expensive climate disruption, and you people like to take all of that, put it under the header ‘Al Gore is a fat stupid liberal,” and that makes it all so simple for you. You know, like when we invaded Iraq because we were attacked by Bin Laden. So simple it really isn’t very helpful, in fact it is sheer folly.
But no, I don’t see any relationship between Al Gore and this study, no. You do, obviously, because it is a very simple world for you, and putting this subject under the icon of a ‘political opponent’ triggers your partisan tribal mindset, and so helps keep you from having to think about it.
By the way, I came from Earth, 60′s and 70′s America, when this wild far-right Tea Party philosophy that has hijacked an entire US political party would have been seen as seriously fringe John Birch nuttiness.
You know, John Birch Society? A bunch of folks who would totally get where you people are coming from with the world-wide 50 year hoax on the part of every climate scientist in the world under the leadership of Al Gore, to enact an enviro-Marxist plot to take over the world economy.
I just like typing that because, as accurate as it is a summary of your position, it just seems to me that you might have some shred of intellectual decency enough to recoil at the sight of it, when you see it spelled out. Any luck?
By the way, I came from Earth,
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No…. you didn’t
thanes….says…”I just like typing that because”
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you are projecting yourself onto those you hate
Al Gore is now so desperate to “win the conversation,” or in other words ‘silence the dissent’ surrounding global warming that he is now equating those who question ManBearPig with racists who supported spraying black people with water cannons.
Of course, the delicious irony is the fact that the promotion of man-made global warming and the development of biofuels is killing predominantly black people in third world countries as a result of soaring food prices.
Gore then went on to talk about how to “win the conversation” on global warming, by comparing skeptics with racists, adding “It is important to get that out there, absolutely.”
Gore wants to make man-made climate change skepticism a thought crime on a par with uttering racist obscenities, once again revealing the hardcore authoritarian tendencies that cloud the entire global warming movement.
Since the skeptics are clearly ‘winning the conversation’, with polls showing a decreasing belief in climate change alarmism, merely insinuating skeptics are akin to holocaust deniers by labeling them “climate deniers” is no longer sufficient for the likes of Gore.
In reality, if you want to point the finger at anyone for encouraging racism, it’s overwhelmingly the global warming alarmists themselves.
Climate change alarmism and implementation of global warming policies is a crime of the highest nature, because it is already having a genocidal impact in countries like Haiti, where the doubling of food prices is resulting in a substantial increase in starvation, poverty and death.
The Democrat Organized Criminal Establishment is making me crazy.
johnniechimpo1
Please tell me how a succinct description of why you disbelieve ALL climate scientists (enviro-Marxist plot to hijack the world economy led by Al Gore) is ‘projecting myself onto those I hate’?
I’m just boiling your position down to a hard nut and seeing if you can stomach it.
Also, are you making an accusation I am extra-terrestrial? Do I need to add another category to the term ‘enviro-Marxist’ to encapsulate your paranoid conspiracy theory?
By the way, no climate scientist or thoughtful liberal EVER thought turning corn into fuel made any damn sense.
Funny when you people are denying the obvious truth, putting us all in serious jeopardy, and you accuse people of high crimes.
Not funny ha ha. Kind of funny in the ‘worse than Holocaust Deniers by a factor of one thousand’.
By the way, no climate scientist or thoughtful liberal EVER thought turning corn into fuel made any damn sense.
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Except… Al Gore
Also, you disingenuous threatening poop-throwing monkey, one of the prime factors causing soaring food prices was the failure of the Russian and Australian crops because of- wait for it- GLOBAL WARMING!
Really, go ahead and look it up. 110 degrees in Siberia. Hasn’t happened much in the last 10000 years. Somebody said it might happen, though. 1988. James Hansen. Made a prediction. Came true. SCIENCE!
Really. Go ahead, look it up.
Gore says he was more concerned with garnering votes from farmers in Tennessee and Iowa than with what was best for the environment.
The food-versus-fuel debate is nothing new. However, it really exploded when the United States experienced record food prices in 2008. The biofuel industry was blamed for this. In 2010, 41% of the United States’ corn crop, representing 15% of all corn produced on the planet will be converted into ethanol.
Corn ethanol received US$7.7 billion in subsidies from the U.S. government last year.
110 degrees in Siberia.
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confusing weather… with climate
James Hansen. Made a prediction. Came true. SCIENCE!
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A prediction is not science…
Rob,
Yes as Vice-President, sucking up for Iowa votes Gore, without any real action, voiced support for ethanol subsidies, which he later noted himself was a politically-motivated error. God forgive anyone in your world admitting error ( Bush’s main regret? Um, as I remeber he doesn’t have any)
But regarding food prices, pretty much everyone attributes price surge to crop failures as I noted.
Oh, and by the way, 110 degrees in Siberia is not confusing climate with weather. Not when 20% of Pakistan was underwater that year. Australia was under record drought, then record flood. Oooo, that sounds familiar doesn’t it? Like Texas and Oklahoma under record drought, Arizona with record fires, 500 year floods on the Mississippi and Missouri- this year. Along with massive deadly heat-waves. Oh, and vanishing Arctic ice.
At some point, you notice there is a very odd clustering of extreme ‘weather events’ in the very recent past, and you begin to understand you are seeing the effects of the well-understood, and very much predicted, global warming.
Actually, prediction is at the heart of science. It’s how hypothesis ever moves to the vaulted position of theory. When it comes true.
By the way, I am a little red-faced about that Al Gore ethanol thing. Good one, actually.
James Hansen. Made a prediction. Came true. SCIENCE!
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who knew it would be for his arrest…
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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2011/08/29/bloomberg1376-LQPG1D0YHQ0X01-6S9HC2G0E6P8TK8JMCCIJ9E3FU.DTL&ST=1
James Hansen, head of NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies, was arrested outside the White House as he joined protesters in urging President Barack Obama to reject TransCanada Corp.’s $7 billion pipeline.
Before he was taken into custody today, Hansen took a megaphone and implored Obama to act “for the sake of your children and grandchildren.”
“If Obama chooses the dirty needle it will confirm that the president was just green-washing all along,” Hansen, 70, who took a vacation day from his job at the New York based institute to participate in the protest, said in an e-mailed statement.
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which he later noted himself was a politically-motivated error.
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Pandering for votes… is still…. pandering for votes….
which he later noted himself was a politically-motivated error.
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and one wonders how many other politically motivated errors he has made
Actually, prediction is at the heart of science. It’s how hypothesis ever moves to the vaulted position of theory. When it comes true.
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you confuse prediction … with theory….
Not when 20% of Pakistan was underwater that year.
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The rainfall anomaly map published by NASA showed unusually intense monsoon rains attributed to La Niña.
On 21 June, the Pakistan Meteorological Department cautioned that urban and flash flooding could occur from July to September in the north parts of the country. The same department recorded above-average rainfall in the months of July and August 2010 and monitored the flood wave progression.
Discharge levels were comparable to those of the floods of 1988, 1995, and 1997.
At some point, you notice there is a very odd clustering of extreme ‘weather events’ in the very recent past, and you begin to understand you are seeing the effects of the well-understood, and very much predicted, global warming.
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Not quite…
http://www.john-daly.com/sun-enso/sun-enso.htm
The 11-year sunspot cycle meets these conditions of external forcing. Yet climatologists who exclusively consider the change in the sun’s irradiance solely look at maxima and minima of the sunspot cycle. It is easy to see that these extrema show no consistent and sufficiently strong correlation with the El Nino phenomenon.
However, recent research has shown that the solar wind, driven by solar eruptions (flares and coronal mass ejections) and plasma flux emanating from coronal holes, has a stronger impact on climate phenomena either directly or by modulating galactic cosmic rays [31].
The activity of coronal holes is not well correlated with sunspot activity, while energetic eruptions shun sunspot maxima and occur even close to minima. So it makes sense to investigate whether there are other phases than maxima and minima within the sunspot cycle which are closely correlated with El Niño events.
La Niña misses SoCal, hits Sun Belt
http://www.achangeinthewind.com/2011/07/la-ni%C3%B1a-misses-socal-hits-sun-belt.html
As we’ve been discussing over the last few months, this past year’s La Niña has been a bust in Southern California. What was expected to be a dry winter with winds and heat turned out to be a wet, blustery winter with massive Sierran snowpack.
But not so across the U.S! As the NY Times reported yesterday, across the rest of the Southwest and deep into the Sunbelt and the South, this has been a classic La Niña episode, a huge drought that experts are now comparing to the Dust Bowl.
LAKE TAHOE — Last year’s La Niña led to a seemingly endless winter.
http://www.sierrasun.com/article/20110818/NEWS/110819949
And the climate pattern may be gearing up for a return this year, but that doesn’t guarantee similar results when it comes to snowfall.
On Aug. 4, the National Climate Prediction Center issued a La Niña Watch after computer models showed the weather pattern has a 50 percent chance of redeveloping during the fall.
A La Niña Watch is issued when conditions are favorable for the development of La Niña conditions “within the next six months,” according to the National Weather Service.
La Niña is associated with cooler than normal water in the Pacific Ocean along the equator. The weather pattern typically leads to colder and wetter weather in the Pacific northwest and drier and warmer weather in the southern United States, including Southern California.
Are you implying Hansen’s participation in civil disobedience undermines his science? I think quite the opposite.
Why do you think there was such an unusually strong La Nina? Also, you do know the snow pack is seriously depleted? Remember Arizona fires?
I see you have read the right-wing blogosphere’s misunderstanding of the CERN cloud research. If want to understand it, go to RealClimate. It’s actually interesting.
Obviously the Pakistan discharges were not comparable with five previous years where the country did not end up underwater.
You confuse periods….with valid arguments.
We are talking about global warming. Predicted in some detail in the sixties by President Johnson’s science advisers based on Keeling’s curve from the fifties, based on Arrhenius and Tyndall’s work from 120 and 150 years ago. All pulled together in front of Congress in 1988 by Hansen. And right now you are conjuring up specious unsupported mechanisms to try to explain away what is much better explained and already predicted by AGW. What about the arctic ice? Why not throw in what y’all said in 2007- nothing special, it’ll bounce right back!
Doesn’t it strike you as funny that every year you have more and more odd, unusual things to try and explain away?
RealClimate
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you mean the left wing blogosphere…
What about the arctic ice?
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http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2011/02/08/arctic-ice-volume-has-increased-26-over-the-last-three-years/
Arctic Ice Volume Has Increased 26% Over The Last Three Years
Posted on February 8, 2011 by stevengoddard
According to US Navy PIPS2 maps, the area of thick Arctic ice has more than doubled, and the volume of Arctic ice has increased by 26% – since 2008. You can see from the graph below that ice thickness distribution has shifted dramatically to the right since the same date in 2008.
You can also see why NSIDC only likes to talk about 4+ year old ice. The reason being that it will take another two years to recover from the 2007 low.
The Keeling Curve is a graph which plots the ongoing change in concentration of carbon dioxide in Earth’s atmosphere since 1958.
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what are you alleging with the CO2 levels…
Why do you think there was such an unusually strong La Nina?
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http://www.john-daly.com/sun-enso/sun-enso.htm
The 11-year sunspot cycle meets these conditions of external forcing. Yet climatologists who exclusively consider the change in the sun’s irradiance solely look at maxima and minima of the sunspot cycle. It is easy to see that these extrema show no consistent and sufficiently strong correlation with the El Nino phenomenon.
However, recent research has shown that the solar wind, driven by solar eruptions (flares and coronal mass ejections) and plasma flux emanating from coronal holes, has a stronger impact on climate phenomena either directly or by modulating galactic cosmic rays [31].
The activity of coronal holes is not well correlated with sunspot activity, while energetic eruptions shun sunspot maxima and occur even close to minima. So it makes sense to investigate whether there are other phases than maxima and minima within the sunspot cycle which are closely correlated with El Niño events.
Doesn’t it strike you as funny that every year you have more and more odd, unusual things to try and explain away?
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Not really… if you truly believe in science…
Dr. Alexey Dmitriev…
The quantity of plasma, in the form of ionized hydrogen, helium, and hydroxyl, that we encounter in the LISM is a critical variable for what happens in the wider behavior of our solar system. This increased influx of energy is the fundamental cause of the multiple magnetic and climatic changes that have recently been observed in the sun and across all of the planets. Dmitriev even goes as far as to say the consequence of the increase in this interstellar plasmic energy is far more important, in his opinion, than human greenhouse gas emissions are in the creation of our planet’s current global warming crisis.
Changes in the Heliosphere
The heliosphere itself has exhibited a dramatic change in behavior over the last ten years. The transition through this increased plasma flux has expanded the heliosphere’s bow shock wave in front of the solar system more than ten-fold. Dmitriev gives an extensive catalogue of changes he claims this has caused within the solar system.
Recent Planetary Changes
–Significant physical, chemical, and optical changes observed on Venus; an inversion of dark and light spots detected for the first time and a sharp decrease of sulfur-containing gases in its atmosphere.
–The first stages of atmosphere generation on the Moon, where a growing sodium-based atmosphere that reaches 5,500 miles in height has been detected.
–Changes in the atmosphere of Mars, including a cloudy growth in the equatorial region and unusual growth in ozone concentration.
–Significant melting of the Martian polar ice caps.
–A doubling of the magnetic field intensity on Jupiter after the series of impacts from the fragments of the Shoemaker-Levy comet in 1994; also, the appearance of large auroral anomalies, excessive plasma generation, and radiation belt brightening.
–The creation of an ionic flux tube between Jupiter and the volcanic regions of its moon, Io. This stream of plasma is millions of miles in length and is 1 million amperes in strength. It is affecting Jupiter’s magnetic field and intensifying its plasma genesis.
–Reporting of auroras and a visible increase in brightness on Saturn.
–Abrupt large-scale growth of magnetosphere intensity and an increase in brightness on Uranus.
–A change in light intensity and light-spot dynamics on Neptune.
–A growth of dark spots on Pluto.
Dmitriev notes that Uranus and Neptune, which are magnetically conjugate planets, have both undergone magnetic pole shifts in recent decades. Earth is magnetically conjugate to Jupiter, so he theorizes that the dramatic changes on Jupiter could well have consequences for our planet.
The claim of a direct causal link between the increase in plasma entering the solar system and recent planetary changes is still very controversial, but Dmitriev’s research is quite comprehensive and is backed up with extensive scientific references. It seems likely that the increase in this cosmic energy does have some role to play in influencing climate, but it may be one of many contributing factors, rather than a sole cause. Dmitriev himself points out that planetary changes are complex affairs with many interdependent factors. It is the total sum of all these influences that actually determines what happens.
Dr. Alexey Dmitriev… made a prediction in 1997….
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http://www.tmgnow.com/repository/global/planetophysical.html
PLANETOPHYSICAL STATE OF
THE EARTH AND LIFE
By DR. ALEXEY N. DMITRIEV*
Published in Russian, IICA Transactions, Volume 4, 1997
@Rob–
I’ve thanked you for your comments on Islam–I’ll add many thanks for your posts above.
@mary… thank you
Further Disaster Strikes Hansen’s Kingdom : NOAA Still Forecasting Multi-Year La Nina
Posted by Steven Goddard
Apr 10, 11
Last update: 6 April 2011
While La Niña conditions are guaranteed for at least a few months more, it remains to be seen whether it will indeed last into 2012, as discussed eight months ago on this page. I believe the odds for a two-year event remain well above 50%, notwithstanding the possibility of temporary weakening during boreal summer. During the next few months, the MEI may very well stay stronger than Niño 3.4 since the latter is not normalized to account for weaker variability during this time of year. The current event has also shown a persistent tendency for stronger atmospheric than oceanic anomalies.
http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/psd/people/klaus.wolter/MEI/
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Looks like Hansen got it exactly backwards.
Thursday 31 March 2011
by: James E. Hansen and Makiko Sato
Based on subsurface ocean temperatures, the way these have progressed the past several months, and comparisons with development of prior El Niños, we believe that the system is moving toward a strong El Niño starting this summer. It’s not a sure bet, but it is probable.
http://www.truth-out.org/perceptions-climate-change/1301356800
Klaus Wolter Still Forecasting A Two Year La Nina Event
Posted by Steven Goddard
May 05, 11
Hansen forecast a strong El Nino for this summer.
Fortunately for us, there are some competent scientists out there too.
I believe the odds for a two-year event remain well above 50%, notwithstanding the possibility of temporary weakening during boreal summer.
http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/psd/people/klaus.wolter/MEI/
Researchers say sulphur released by China’s coal plants masked global warming despite a massive increase in greenhouse gases.
http://www.themarknews.com/articles/5914-chinese-coal-pollution-halted-global-warming-study
A new study suggests that the Asian pollutants that cause acid rain are also largely responsible for temporarily halting global warming. Researchers at Harvard and Boston Universities and Finland’s University of Turku argue that the cooling effect of sulphur emissions from Chinese coal consumption prevented worldwide temperatures from rising between 1998 and 2008, masking the effects of global warning. The study, which was published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, also warns that more rapid climate change is likely to occur as the emerging economies crack down on coal-fueled pollution. Many scientists have supported the new study, which refutes the pervasive claim that global warning has simply stopped.
The kooky leftist enviro wackos really out did themselves on this…
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/04/global-warming-china-air-pollution_n_889897.html
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“…that the cooling effect of sulphur emissions from Chinese coal consumption prevented worldwide temperatures from rising between 1998 and 2008…”
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if burning coal… causes global cooling… as these leftists seem to think…
then why are we closing down our coal burning plants…?
More from the HuffPo….
“But sulfur’s cooling effect is only temporary, while the carbon dioxide from coal burning stays in Earth’s atmosphere a long time.”
“Sulfur quickly drops out of the air if it is not replenished, while carbon dioxide remains for a long time, so its warming effects are beginning to be visible again, he noted. The plateau in temperature growth disappeared in 2009 and 2010, when temperatures lurched upward.”
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the cooling effect happened when? what year(s)?
how can the short lived sulfur cool….
while at the same time the longer life CO2 makes it hotter…?
…only in an enviro wackos mind…
I have developed a severe bout of depression ever since King Joffrey beheaded Eddard Stark.
Rob,
With all of the fringe science you cite above in order to avoid dealing with the real science, you should toss in the Electric Sun hypo thesis- has probably one or two more crank physicists who’ve written books about it. I hop you realize you are keeping company with the same kinds of folks that drink their own urine to cure cancer, the folks who don’t get their kids vaccinated because of autism fears, and people who don’t think HIV causes AIDS.
By the way, I take it from the topics of the crack-pot science you are citing, you ARE agreeing there has been significant global warming? Because in my experience, Deniers argue all for points simultaneously
1. There has been no warming
2. There has been non- human induced warming
3. It’s good for us
4. It is too expensive to fix
So just to test to see if it is possible to make any progress- are you conceding point one?
With all of the fringe science you cite above
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Suddenly… you condemn the scientists you don’t like…
hypocrisy much…
and notice how you can’t answer simple questions…
thanes… you are just like the alarmists…. full of hot air…
Excerpt: In a scary new book called Time’s Up – whose free online version titled A Matter Of Scale you can read here – author Keith Farnish claims: “The only way to prevent global ecological collapse and thus ensure the survival of humanity is to rid the world of Industrial Civilization.”
Needless to say, our friend Dr James Hansen thinks this book is the bees knees. Here is his puff on the Amazon website: “Keith Farnish has it right: time has practically run out, and the ‘system’ is the problem. Governments are under the thumb of fossil fuel special interests – they will not look after our and the planet’s well-being until we force them to do so, and that is going to require enormous effort.”
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Times-Up-Uncivilized-Solution-Global/dp/190032248X
Rob, the people you cited are not serious scientists, or their work has no relation to climate science, or the work (CERN and ENSO) says nothing that you think it does.
Ol “Triple Point” Goddard is a hilarious citation! Yes, he is the expert to refute the entire scientific world about Arctic Ice volume. Real quick question for you a simple one- you are asserting that Arctic ice volume is up, increasing? Really? Wow.
And sorry I didn’t answer your questions about sulfur aerosols and carbon dioxide, but they seemed illogical. So you seem to be confused that burning dirty coal would hide global warming from a long term emission of carbon dioxide by a short-lived aerosol? That your series of questions?
If you can’t understand how that could work, how do you manage to figure out things as everyday as phone bills, or introductory rate credit cards? Are you serious or just playing dumb?
the people you cited are not serious scientists,
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the old leftist standard… not serious scientists… and fail to cite how…
but Al Gore… and James “kill industrial civilization” Hansen… are?
And sorry I didn’t answer your questions about sulfur aerosols and carbon dioxide, but they seemed illogical.
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Illogical… or you’re just too stupid to answer…
Yeah, James Hansen, Director of NASA Goddard Institute of Space Studies, Adjunct Professor at Columbia, guy who pretty much figured out Venus, and world-respected scientist? Yeah, he’s a climate scientists.
Al Gore? He is a profoundly good, intelligent human being. Oh, also Nobel Prize winner.
Ol’ Triple Point Goddard? What is he, a statistician and general pestilence upon humanity, who understands so little of climate science that even Anthony Watts told him to shut up and stop embarrassing himself during one of Goddard’s grand pioneering efforts to misunderstand the Arctic.
But you, Rob, what do you say motivates the entire world scientific community to publish paper after paper after paper backing up global warming? I mean sure, find your Siberian physicist who came up with some crud in 1997 and pretend he’s got some silver bullet against the Global Warming monster, but for the love of Mike, don’t pretend to be a defender of science when someone points out he is a crack-pot with a fringe theory that has not stood up in the peer-reviewed literature?
You are confusing lone eccentrics….with science.
Okay, so what’s your particular question about aerosols and that particular paper? It might help to make it into a single sentence.
But no, Al Gore is not a scientist.
Boy, again, love Goddard’s Arctic studies!
Al Gore? He is a profoundly good, intelligent human being. Oh, also Nobel Prize winner.
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Now I know you’re an asshole…
Al Gore won a political prize for an alleged work of science.
That rather speaks for itself, doesn’t it?
No he won it for his work disseminating science and it’s implications. “An Inconvenient Truth” while making millions (donated to charity, by the way) and winning an Oscar, could not strictly be called science.
So is your question whether or not I’m an asshole, and you answered it for yourself? Well, when talking about science it’s usually more pertinent to ask if someone is right.
So you had some questions about sulfur aerosols? Please, try to stick to a sentence.
No he won it for his work disseminating science and it’s implications.
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A non scientist…in your words…who you credit with disseminating science…
wow…
do you read what you write…
while making millions (donated to charity, by the way) and winning an Oscar
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I wouldn’t call the Hollywood the bastion of intelligence….
and speaking of millions…
Al Gore was worth one million dollars, when he left the VP
today he is worth 100 million…
ABC News.com estimated soon-to-be-Nobel Laureate Al Gore’s net worth at $100 million, which isn’t bad considering that he was supposedly worth about $1 million when he watched George W. Bush get sworn in as president in January 2001.
Alliance for Climate Protection- this is a charity. Go ahead, give to it. Al Gore does, pretty much everything.
Sorry to side-track you, I should have known better that if you ever see the word “Gore” your eyesight gets all red, you paw the ground and steam comes out of your nose.
Back to your question?
have you ever heard the story where Gore Sr. voted against the Civil Rights Act…
seems papa Gore was a bit of a racist…
Ohm by the way, missed that last point. I do read what I write. Umm, yeah, I believe that across the country, most science is taught by non-scientists.
They are called science teachers. They are in these things called schools (big buildings with bells and kids, I assume things your parents told you were evil as they taught ‘evolution’ or ‘logic’ or whatever else your cult’s compound excised from your home-schooling curriculum).
Funny how you start talking about how great Al Gore is…
than I throw some embarrassing facts out there about him
and you want to change the topic…
no… you like Al Gore…. let’s talk everything Al Gore
Rob, Gore senior was a crusader for Civil Rights. Your really up a wrong tree there. Sorry, I’m so sorry I mentioned Gore.
Question about coal and aerosols?
or whatever else your cult’s compound excised from your home-schooling curriculum
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Such a hater…
your facade is falling…your vile leftist talking points are shining through…
BUT GORE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS STUDY YOU MORON!
The point of my original post is that anyone can take anything, put a picture of Al Gore next to it, and because you are such vicious partisan hacks your brains shut down while you go on attack mode against your perceived political enemy.
I think your last post says that so much better than I have in the last 12 hours.
Did you ever actually have some reasonable question about the science?
Fine, call me a vile hater asshole etc. You said you had some question I didn’t answer.
Rob, Gore senior was a crusader for Civil Rights. Your really up a wrong tree there. Sorry, I’m so sorry I mentioned Gore.
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sorry thanes… you can try wishing it away… but the truth is hard to shake…
No, learn the history. Al Gore Senior was the only Southern senator to consistently champion civil rights, and is universally recognized for this among people who know squat.
Boy, are we ever going to get back to a question about Global Warming or what?
Like I said, take a scientific study. Put it next to a picture of Al Gore. Wait for you blood-drinking trolls to start spouting lies.
Aerosols? Global Warming?
Do you have any appreciation of my point about how it is so easy to turn your mind off with a picture of Al Gore? Aren’t you worried about being so strongly conditioned like that?
Rob, Gore senior was a crusader for Civil Rights. Your really up a wrong tree there. Sorry, I’m so sorry I mentioned Gore.
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You should be sorry… for defending a racist…
Al Gore Sr. was a racist bigot who voted against the Civil Rights Bill.
Al Gore lied when he said his dad lost the election because he stood for the Civil Rights Bill.
The blacks were gored by Al Gore Sr. and his son lies to cover up the racist background. It is easy to control the minds of people. All one has to do is change history by lying about the past.
This is exactly what has happened with the legacy of former Democratic U.S. Senator Al Gore, Sr. of Tennessee – the father of our former vice president –
and his mythical “support” of civil rights.
In a recent speech to the NAACP, Vice President Gore said his father lost his Senate seat because he supported civil rights legislation.
let me set history straight…. Al Gore, Sr., together with the rest of the southern Democrats, voted against the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
Congressional Quarterly reported that, in the House of Representatives, 61% of Democrats (152 for, 96 against) voted for the Civil Rights Act as opposed to 80% of Republicans (138 for, 38 against). In the Senate, 69% of Democrats (46 for, 21 against) voted for the Act while 82% of Republicans did (27 for, 6 against). All southern Democrats voted against the Act.
Inform yourself, so you can learn for yourself about this important historical event. All official records about the Civil Rights Act can be found in the June 1964 issues of Congressional Quarterly.
Al Gore, Sr. did not stop at simply voting against the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
In addition, Congressional Quarterly reported that Gore attempted to send the Act to the Senate Judiciary Committee with an amendment to say “in defiance of a court desegregation order, federal funds could not be held from any school districts.” Gore sought to take the teeth out of the Act in the event it passed.
Ostensibly, Senator Gore was “elated” at the idea of young Al, Jr. going to school with black children.
In reality, however, the future vice president attended an elite private school.
New Report Claims Global Warming Linked To Rise In Mental Illness…
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seems the thread header describes you aptly… thanes…
you do have a mental illness…
you refuse to accept the truth about Gore
and lie for him at every turn….
if you’re willing to lie about Gore… what else are you willing to lie about…
so long racist…
You just called me a racist? Are you quite serious?
And my mental illness is “refusing to accept the truth about Al Gore”?
Alright, anyone here who doesn’t end a thread about global warming with a charge of racism?
By the way, go ahead and read something else on Al Gore Sr’s record. 1965 Voting Rights Act. Refused the Southern Manifesto. Victim of the Republicans “Southern Strategy.”.
Honestly, Rob, I think it’s a good thing whatever Juvenile Detention Center you are in is helping you gain computer skills, but it’s time you get back to work on Excel, or Linux or something.