Video: Ron Paul Explains Why Jihadists Have Lots Of Good Reasons To Kill Americans…
Al-Qaeda’s useful idiot.
“This whole idea that the whole Muslim world is responsible for this and they are attacking us because we are free and prosperous, that is just not true. Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda have been explicit. . . they have been explicit and they wrote and said that “we attacked America because you had bases on our holy land in Saudi Arabia, you do not give Palestinians fair treatment and you have been bombing (audience boos). . . I didn’t say that. I’m trying to get you to understand what the motive was behind the bombing. At the same time we had been bombing and killing hundreds of thousands of Iraqis for ten years. Would you be annoyed? If you’re not annoyed then there’s some problem.”
Via BreitbartTV
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That useful idiot Ron Paul… is now working with Adam Gadahn…
nice job Paulnut
“I’m trying to get you to understand what the motive was behind the bombing. At the same time we had been bombing and killing hundreds of thousands of Iraqis for ten years. Would you be annoyed?”
wtf is he talking about? I believe the Iraqi war was started AFTER 9/11/01 ? yes? correct me if i’m wrong.
of course there were OTHER bombings, that we conveniently ignore if we are the leftists propagandists.. (U.S.S. Cole, embassy bombings, the first WTC bombing…)
The new definition of MORON… MORON Paul…
How did this kook escape from Prisoner Island again..?
I like the look from Gingrich
“Ron…have you lost your fucking mind?”
Ron Paul just does not understand what *propaganda* is, and how it can be used. I think he would be so hurt…HURT…to find out that bin Laden and the terrorists were LYING when they said those (very explicit) things anout WHY they did what they did!
Paul has not studied Islam or the history of Islamic supremacism and apparently doesn’t know this is their M.O. – SOMEONE ELSE is ALWAYS to blame for their “defensive agressions,” and that’s what they always call them: *Defensive actions*. It’s the same with Israel – ever notice how they can fire rockets at Israel and then they run to the UN when Israel responds?
And Israel gets the blame!
Musloid jihadists can attack you out of the blue from 10,000 miles away and claim they had to do it in *defense* of Islam because…ummm…well…that CARTOONIST of yours *offended* the prophet!!!
And Paul and his ilk would *buy* that, hook line and sinker.
Well, it’s true that Osama b. L.’s primary beef with the US was its uncritical support for Israel and military presence in Saudi Arabia, not some nebulous hatred of American freedom. I doubt many members of AQ are kept up by fevered dreams about the 1st and 2nd Amendments.
Ron Paul was on safer ground when he used to cite the CIA’s usage of the term “blowback” (explaining how US foreign policy might not serve US security interests), while nonetheless emphasising jihadist responsibility for wicked acts. He messed up this time.
You REALLY should be listening to the CNN Wet team taking out each of the Candidates and EVEN defending OBaNo from THEIR remarks. INsinuating that the republicans are crazy, talking about the conservative audience in not a complimentary way, Calling the Candidates SLICK. Insulting the Tea Party. Talking about how unpopular they are. They are directing the Republican nomination AGAIN.
I started to tell people after that debate on the MSNBC that I really thought Ron Paul was the republican party village idiot. After tonight I take it back. Ron Paul is not the republican party village idiot. He is the king of village idiots everywhere. To think I was listening to a Republican presidential candidate debate and I heard what he said made me embarrrassed. I was expecting him to break out in truther retoric claiming we helped plan it too.
I think the wheels came off of the Ron Paul Crazy Car tonight. Check him off.
@ fubar, re: wtf is he talking about? I believe the Iraqi war was started AFTER 9/11/01 ?
I think he means the “no fly zones” that were put in place to protect the Kurds, etc. Remember how Saddam gassed the Kurds?
Anyway, things have escalated to the point now where a substantial group of Muslims really do want to attack Westerners just because we don’t accept the “Islamic” way of life and never will.
@greenlantern2011: Check him off? He was never seriously checked-in.
Ron Paul gets booed for telling the truth.
CNN AD..right now. 8 Candidates. One Goal. That be CNN’s goal. Shoot the legs out from under all of them and clear the way for a second obama term.
Mission accomplished.
The former head of the CIA agrees with him and he gets more money from active military than all other candidates combined.
@Simon
a-HA! thank you.
the indoctrination of hate is so ingrained into Muslims at a young age, there really IS no other way of thinking.
http://www.amazon.com/How-Evil-Works-Understanding-Transforming/dp/1439168199
I really like some of Paul’s viewpoints but he’s about as naive as they come on foreign policy.
He’s nuts. Border fences to keep us in and now the justification of 9/11.
He’ s done.
@CalypsoJ.
have faith. anyone is better then obongo2.0
anyone…
a dead herring, a squashed roll of toilet paper, Spongebob Squarepants,
You are free to hate the man, but what he says makes good sense. He, and apparently only he, truly supports following the US Constitution, the actual words of the document. We would be a much safer, saner nation if the entire government operated on that basis, instead of giving an oath to support the Constitution and the regularly violating that oath thereafter. Think about it; he does indeed speak the truth, whether you like it or not.
NOTE:
Don’t hire Ron Paul, commenter *Rudy*, or the former head of the CIA to run any military intelligence for you if you get into a war, because ALL THREE believe EVERYTHING the enemy TELLS THEM.
Suckers.
Ron Paul is useful.. an idiot as well…
Frothy!!
DR Ronny Paul, I think the first part of his name lets everyone know, he’s been self medicating. AGAIN. Watcha takin now Ronnie, weed not strong enough.
I don’t give a fuck.. pardon the language.. what the motive of the Muslim world was for attacking America.. the swine have attacked America since the Founding and we weren’t killing them then.. Muslim despots have killed their own people for centuries and Muslims were not too bothered by that, yet according to this shithead Paul they are bothered if the U.S. kills a few terrorists now and then.. not a single Muslim country has a memorial to the Americans murdered by Muslims on 9/11.. unlike Israel..
‘If the measure of a true friend is how sincerely they mourn for your loss, Israel once again showed how close of an ally they are to the United States.’
http://www.bermanpost.com/2011/09/israeli-911-memorial.html
Wait Wait, the look on Newt’s face,, PRICELESS
@ S. Wolf
You nailed it.
I’m sorry John Bolton decided against running.
His speech to the 9/11 Freedom Rally:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_x1bljjzFqk
@ S. Wolf
Hear, hear!
We’ve bombed 100′s of thousands of Iraqi’s?
Good Lord, this guy is a mascot for Code Pink.
How does Mr. Paul explain these Islamic terrorist strikes against Americans?
1979 Iran Hostage Crisis: seizure of US Tehran Embassy, Iran (Nov 4, 1979 for 444 days)
1983 Bombing of US Beirut Embassy, Lebanon (April 18, 1983)
1983 Bombing of US Marine barracks, Beirut, Lebanon (Oct 23, 1983)
1983 Bombing of US Kuwait Embassy (Dec 12, 1983)
1984 Bombing of US Beirut Embassy (again) (Sept 20, 1984)
1984 Kuwait Airlines Flight 221 hijacked to Tehran – American passengers murdered (Dec 3, 1984)
1985 Hijacking TWA Flight 847 hijacked to Beirut (June 14, 1985)
1985 Hijacking cruise ship Achille Lauro, wheelchair-bound American is thrown overboard & killed (Oct 7, 1985)
1986 Bombing Berlin disco frequented by US servicemen (April 5, 1986)
1988 Bombing Pan Am Flight 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland, 100′s murdered (Dec 21, 1988)
1993 First bombing World Trade Center, New York City, 7 Killed, 1,042 wounded (Feb 26, 1993)
1993 Foiled NY Landmarks plot by Omar Abdel Rahman to blow up the Holland and Lincoln tunnels
and other New York City landmarks
1993 Attempted Assassination of Pres. Bush Sr. during visit to Kuwait (April 14, 1993)
1993 Black Hawk Down: shot down US helicopters in Mogadishu, Somalia,
during Operation Restore Hope (Oct 3-4, 1993)
1994 Plot to assassinate President Clinton during visit to the Philippines
1995 Failed Project Bojinka by Ramzi Yousef to blow up a dozen US airliners over the Pacific (end in Jan 1995)
1995 Bombing US military headquarters, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia (Nov 13, 1995)
1996 Bombing Khobar Towers, Saudi Arabia, housing U.S. foreign military personnel (Jun 25, 1996)
1998 Bombing U.S. Nairobi Embassy, Kenya, Africa (Aug 7, 1998)
1998 Bombing U.S. Dar es Salaam Embassy, Tanzania, Africa (Aug 7, 1998)
1999 Foiled LAX Millennium plot by Ahmed Ressam to bomb Los Angeles International Airport
(Ressam was arrested at US Canadian border)
2000 Failed USS The Sullivans bombing that was refueling in the port of Aden, Yemen. (Jan 3, 2000)
2000 Bombing USS Cole in the port of Aden, Yemen, 17 U.S. Navy sailors murdered (Oct 12, 2000)
(The USS Cole was not engaged in any combat during this period)
2000 Bombing plaza across from US Manila Embassy (Dec 30, 2000)
Then we have 9/11…..
How does Paul explain Islamic rape, murder and oppression of Christians in Nigeria, Egypt, Sudan and Ethiopia?
What does Abu Sayaff terrorism in the Philippines have to do with the USA, Israel or the Palestinian issue?
How does blowing up a night club in Bali help Palestinians?
Are American cause Shiites to blow up and assassinate Sunnis and vice versa all over the Middle East and North Africa?
Paul overlooks the salient, painfully obvious point. Islamic scholarship divides the world into two parts:
1) The House of Islam (dar al-Islam): nations submitted to Islamic rule.
2) The House of War (dar al-harb): nations that have not submitted to Islam,
so it is incumbent on dar al-Islam to make war (spiritual and physical) upon dar al-harb until all nations submit to the will of Allah or pay the jizyah tax.
Paul is dangerously naive when it comes to foreign policy and especially when ti comes to understanding radical Islam.
Wow, it amazes me that no one sees anything wrong with us occupying a Country for over 10 years and that it might influence how they think of us. We are not the World’s morality police. If another Country even thought of occupying the United States and imposing their will upon us, we would bomb the sh*t out of them.
Ron Paul an idiot?
It makes me laugh when someone on here would preach about Paul being fooled by propaganda when many of you are convinced it’s perfectly ok to bring our war machine to foreign lands to spread peace.
I truly hope the majority of people commenting on these scenarios within specific websites are in the minority of thought within the general population.
If not, America is dying because the people are just ignorant.
Ron Paul’s opinions are well thought out and whether he is right or not is beside the point because neither he nor you random people leaving Internet comments knows the true answer. He has enough character and moxy to stand up for his opinions.
@ S Wolf You are an ignorant, narrow minded imbecile.
Just because you believe something and use pseudo reasoning to justify your prejudice doesn’t make you even close to right. People have been killing people for years and have used religion as a means of control and power.
Your blind hatred for a Religion is the exact thing you blame the brown Muslim people for…you are just like them (if they are even like that)…and 99.999999999999% of them haven’t harmed a hair on anyone’s head and I say that because your dumb ass will think “well i ain’t flying planes into building”…they aren’t either.
Fucking think.
I think we the supporters have a responsibility to socialize Dr. Paul’s message regarding the motivations behind 9/11, because the MSM is always going to play the soundbite of tonight’s debate, “Dr Paul says we invited 9/11″
So this is the way I’ll explain it to my friends:
1. There are essentially to schools of thought behind the motivations of 9/11
- Neocon: the Muslim world in it’s entirety has a inherent radical wing, that’s among it’s many nefarious porpuses, one is to conquest and indcotrinize the western world to their distorted view (sharia law, no woman’s rights, bad taste in clothes etc…)
- Reasonites: a very specific group of former guerrillas and religiously motivated warlords, in an attempt to consolidate their territorial power in afganistan, and Saudi Arabia, on what they see as holy land (code word for land that should be mine) Targeted one of the many occupying powers (Israel, rusia, India, UK, Spain after 2002 and yes the USA since the 1970′s) their objective is to drive the invader off their lands and topple the government or replace it with their distorted version in which they are in charge of course.
2. If you accept any of those theories there a some logical and inevitable consequences after 9/11.
- Neocon: if the motivation was clash of cultures, then the solution is to change their culture, of course we have to get the guilty party, but to change the culture we had to show the Muslim world and the radical wing, that western democracy is awesome, by picking the least liked, most oppressed, and most antagonic country in the region and transforming it in a vibrant democracy, the excuse for 9/11 will be erased.
- Reasonites: if the reason is land and political control, then two courses of action must be taken. The guilty parties have a individual responsibility of the attack, the priority for justice to be served is to capture or kill them, and make clear to foreign powers that this is the priority, and they have to cooperate. The factor of blow back has to be taken into account when shaping foreign policy.
3. So what to do now:
- Neocon: everything is going as planned, the Arab spring (which is not exactly an embrace of western values, but that’s debatable) is a prove of that, and the terrorist threat, meaning the radical wing of the Muslim world is cornered. And to doubt this approach is to allow that way of thinking or acting to recuperate and to come and get us again, so is unpatriotic and bla- bla – bla.
- Reasonites: We are digging ourselfs deeper into the hole, the guerrillas and warlords are never going to end because the primary motivation for their attack is still there and is greatly increased, the most recent terrorist attacks in the US, were carried out by heads of the same snake, that seem to be poping out in some other places we they find safe heaven, and sympathy, but its still the same guilty party that we started with, justice has not been served.
So the ultimate question that is going to make tea partiers out of my friends is?
What is the US gaining by keeping troops in foreign unfriendly countries, and risking the life of troops, the security of the nation, and the life of civilians?
- Neocon: Security
- Reasonite: Nothing to gain, everything to lose
Ron is well informed.US made Sadam…Spider’s Web: The Secret History of How the White House Illegally Armed Iraq.US made Osama and Al-qaeda: Operation Cyclone.US bomb Iraq from 1992 up to invasion in pretext of various reasons ranging from missile and nuclear facilities,plot to kill former Pres. Bush, radar sites,for complying with nuclear inspectors,no fly zones etc.US invade Avganistan and made assassination of Bin Laden in Pakistan…
All this including 9/11 is for freedom and liberty of Oil.
Ron Paul is just stating facts. The US will continue to make enemies as long as we intervene in other countries’ way of life. Go learn consequences of blowback.
Just some perspectives:
9/11 was horrific and 2977 people died. Millions of Americans angry.
So far over 30,000 innocent civilians have died in Afghanistan. Millions of Afghans are also angry but 10x angrier.
I say we call for peace and go back to a modified Big stick (foreign) policy.
Ron Paul is an embarrassment. How much longer do we have to endure his circus sideshow
Breaking! Tragedy narrowly avoided when Newt Gingrich’s already large head did not reach critical mass and explode while listening to Ron Paul justifying Muslim terrorism.
Ron Paul is a Nucking Fut
I see it didn’t take long for the Paultards to get here in force. Unfortunately for them, their lies were refuted before they even got here. Kudos to those who posted the facts.
Thank heaven we will not have to endure Ron Paul and his pork barrel hypocrisy in the U.S. House of Representatives anymore.
@Owen. If you want to see “simple-minded,” see sunstamp’s post, right above yours.
Owen.. was I talking to you? Not that I recall.. I do not hate Muslims as a people, nor even Islam as a religion.. I simply do not accept what the shithead Paul said.. that it is America’s fault that Muslims wantonly killed thousands of Americans.. burning them alive in skyscrapers.. for no reason than that America kicked a Muslim despot out of power in Iraq.. get real fuckface.. and don’t wash that blue dress of yours when shithead Paul squirts his 77 year old crazy glue on it..
I agree that trying to keep the Middle East under control is primarily about the economics of oil. Not just for the US but also the world.
However to disparage America by saying that’s all US foreign policy is about is unfair. The “Black Hawk Down” incident occurred while trying to help Somalians. Torn apart by war and famine, US soldiers tried to bring some security to Somalia. What about US support for Kosovo – a Muslim country. There wasn’t much economic benefit to the US in those actions.
America tried to stay out of world affairs last century. That didn’t stop World Wars One and Two. If the US doesn’t act to maintain world security and its economic interests, then who will?
The “German” above is a thinker. I think things have gone too far to achieve any benefit from withdrawing from world affairs. The Islamic fundamentalist “genie” is “out of the bottle.”
@ Owen
You speak out of both sides of your mouth son. “People have been killing people for years and have used religion as a means of control and power”. “….many of you are convinced it’s perfectly ok to bring our war machines to foreign lands to spread peace.
Count me in on the “ok to bring war machines” crowd. When I look at what South Korea has become, I’m glad I spent time on the DMZ giving them the opportunity to prosper. The alternative across the border is where you’d like them to be? I’m also not ashamed that I went with those “war machines” to give the people of Kuwait their country back. Not ashamed of rolling those machines into the Philippines to help after earthquakes or Volcanos. Or of using those terrible terrible machines to dig the Haitians out of their rubble. Or the Japanese after their Tsunami.
If your neighbor’s house is burning down, what do you do, go hide in the basement? Fine, go hide. I’m going to roll in with whatever I can to help….
America has tried isolationism. It never works out. There are bad people in the world, sticking your head in the sand won’t make them go away. Sooner or later you have to deal with them.
[golem]
racist jew hating old koock, made me physically ill to hear him represent al fucking qaeda in a debate, what a moron, i’ll leave you a short line from a song that will cleanse his idiocy in one fell swoop:
From the Halls of Montezuma To the Shores of Tripoli;
We fight our country’s battles in the air on land and sea
America’s very first war was in response to the muslim barbary nations attacking, pirating, murdering and enslaving American ships and crew, it’s the very reason why we created a navy, don’t tell that to the paulbots though, they’ll blame it on us occupying America or some such nonsense
Terrorism” comes from the French word terrorisme in turn derives from the Latin verb terreō meaning “I frighten.To win terror is to be free of fear.
How to be free of fear?Options?
1.Bomb and kill all “enemies” including their offspring for fear of retaliation.
2.Mind your own business,have a friends and no enemies.
Fuck Ron Paul and all his cultist Paul tard followers. Drop Ron Paul off over Iran with Dennis Kucinich and let them live there. They can join the DEATH TO AMERICA weekly chants.
I find it pretty funny that the great majority of people on here will happily yell “Fuck Ron Paul! Fuck the Paulbots! They all suck!” Yet I haven’t seen one person on here post any sort of mention of an alternative that such hated, terrible people could vote for instead of Ron Paul. Oh wait, there isn’t any.
All of these RINO’s that are in office right now talk out of their ass. They might talk about cutting the budget, but they don’t have the balls to do it. You and I both know that the instant they get into office the politician in them will come out. They’ll fuck around and play politics, making phantom cuts and making due with the status quo.
If the USA is going to survive as a world power, we’ve got to get our spending problem under control. The reason I support Ron Paul is because he seems to me the only candidate that will back that up. Either him or Herman Cain. All of you guys scream about 9/11 and how our enemies over the seas wish to destroy us. But what will happen when China, Russia, and Japan stop allowing us to borrow their money and rapid inflation destroys the dollar? We’re fucked. And we don’t even have to get in a war with China to do it. We’ll probably do something stupid like abandon the dollar and join the Euro since that is the most fucking stable currency in the world ((Extreme sarcasm quote))
Ron Paul does has his faults. Yes, his foreign policy is fucked up. But at least he has the will to govern our nation and solve the problems we have. Our complications and problems we face with the Obamacare, medicate, social security. All of which require direct, prompt action subsequently after the 2012 election. He actually wants to fix those problems and he has the votes in Congress to empower his views. Ron Paul has NEVER voted for a spending increase.
He wants to launch an investigation into the corrupt Federal Reserve, a policy that none of the other candidates will even touch. He wants to cut out federal involvement in our schools and give that power back to the states. He wants to eliminate the TSA the same day he’s elected into office, a topic of discussion many of the front-runners have been mysteriously quiet about. There are a lot of things to like about Ron Paul that makes him unique among any of his peers.
To take his foreign policy and cross him out simply because of that one issue is giving him a bad rap. Like the rest of Congress and our entire fucking military is going to stand around going “DERP DERP DERRRRRP.” while Ron Paul withdraws the troops from the world. He doesn’t have that power or authority and there is no way Congress will agree with it. And you’re assuming that Ron Paul will instantly rush to that issue and ignore the more-present economic threat that is looming right over our head.
You guys can say “Hur hur. Ron Paul is dumb” all you want. But until you guys can give me something better than a fucking RINO to vote for I might as well turn in a write-in vote for myself. These candidates are garbage. Career politicians who have never worked a day in their life. Give me something better.
What is amazing is how the Paulbots always show up in groups. They must have this little nanny line, a warning bell which goes off when an article about Ron Paul is posted. And who ever is on duty calls his buddies and they all rush to the site to try to repair the damage.
I saw Ron Paul tonight. I was at the debate. And there is no way in all holy hell that he is going to get the Republican nomination. If all the other candidates were to suddenly drop dead, he still wouldn’t get the nomination. His foreign policy notions are suicidal. And I’m not going to go into long explanations about how simplistic and naive they are.
I’ll simply ask a few questions. If Ron Paul is correct, then perhaps he can explain why the Muslims are killing Buddhists in Thailand? Chopping off the heads of children. Thailand was never a Muslim land, certainly not one of their so-called holy lands. And Buddhists have never occupied or waged war on any Muslim land. They are extremely peaceful people.
Why is it that every country that was ever conquered by Muslims remains a Muslim land (in the minds of Muslims) even when they are driven off of it? And yet, if a Muslim land is conquered by foreigners, it remains a Muslim land which should be given back to the Muslims.
Why is it that the Muslims which occupied areas of Palestine during the rule of the Ottoman empire (an area which the Ottoman Empire did not distinguish from Syria) were self described as being a mixture of Egyptians, Syrians and Arabs at the time of the Balfour Accord? (If you look at the British white papers, you’ll see that is who they claimed to be.) And yet years later these same people claimed to be Palestinians who had an ancestral claim to the land. During the rule of the Ottoman Empire and at the later time of the Balfor Accord, there were also approximately 80,000 self described Jews living in the same area, with ties to the land that went back thousands of years. Who the Muslims now claim to be interlopers on their land.
Also, when the original partition plan was drawn up (back in the 1940′s), creating two separate states, one for Jews and one for Muslims, why did the Muslims turn it down?
Also why do the Muslims constantly kill each other? And I’m not talking about wars over land or territory. I’m talking about just on a daily basis.
There are a lot of questions that Ron Paul needs to answer, comprehensively, if he can….to explain his simplistic beliefs regarding the motives of Islamic terrorists.
If there is one thing I know, absolutely know, it’s that, when it comes to man, there is nothing new under the sun. History just keeps repeating itself over and over again. And approximately every five to six hundred years, Islam surges out of its ratholes and kills and maims and steals until someone puts a boot in their ass and kicks them back again.
@ Rudy, Owen and the rest of the Paulbots: (and I’m not going to waste my time reading through all your shit)
Just convert already.
Save the rest of us the trouble of finding out who’s on whose side.
You – and ‘Doctor’ Paul – are nothing more than a bunch of dhimmis.
Dhimmis.
Worthless, isolated, ignorant dhimmis.
@ revshawn
Here. Read it, fool.
http://www.masjidtucson.org/quran/noframes/ch9.html
Convert, submit or die.
Katherine, great questions… just don’t expect any of the Paultards to come in here and respond to them. They are bomb throwers (as I know you know) who show up to defend their Messiah with one or two posts and then leave without ever addressing questions directed to them. And yeah, I agree about the warning bell thing… interesting how they show up in packs, hurl their bombs, and then leave all at once. Freaks, all of them, including their Messiah. Blind and lost, they are.
For Owen and his delusional pals:
NAZIs/Islam
http://www.tellchildrenthetruth.com/gallery/
Mabu Imran, leader of Sharia4Belgium -
“Because we are Muslims and thus we are victors, who are here to dominate. And those who cannot accept the dominance of Islam will have to leave. For my part, to hell.”
Anjem Choudary, leader of the in England banned Islam4UK, sounded very threatening in Antwerp.
“We will only rest when the flag of Islam flies everywhere.”
Hamas Child warriors
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LB7nMZOjxyw
Maps of War
http://www.mapsofwar.com/ind/imperial-history.html
There is a lot more but I doubt you’ll even look at what’s here.
I’m with Arabianmoondog on this one. If they can not find a reason to attack the infidel they will make up a story so it seems like they are defending themselves.
Well, since Mr. Paul is so good at explaining radical Muslim hatred, and since the libs are so good at condemning US policy as barbaric, perhaps you can explain away all of this:
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
Im not sure who is more screwed up and dangerous to us as a country, Paulbots or braindead commie liberals?
The Paulbots win as far as being fanatical goes, but commies win as far as not being in touch with reality is concerned. They both meet in the middle.
When you look at both groups combined, it paints a damn scary picture (that that many people in America can be this misguided and have their heads THAT far up their collective asses!)
If the Paulbots used ALL of their brains, theyd realize theyre halfway to either being liberal or conservative. Sitting on the fence.
You cant be a slave to 2 masters. You cant commit to day AND night, conservative AND liberal.
In the end, you have to pick one or the other.
I find it funny that so many comments just say ‘nutjob’, ‘useful idiot’ etc…
These are more random comments that are not backed up with knowledge by illiterate individuals..
The people here who say this are cowards! They would rather just blow up and remove anyone else who is a competitor/rival/enemy of USA than risk the 0.001% chance that these countries could physically hurt them.
Ron Paul speaks the truth! He is the first big name politician in America that I have liked for a LOOONG time!
@ Dan. It may suit your purpose to have an “isolationist” US president but it’s not very practical for world stability given the forces that are out there.
I personally believe Ron Paul is a nutcase, and his poll numbers show a majority of Americans feel the same way about him as I do.
Why was Paul Krugman on that stage?
It has nothing to do with our actions in Iraq, or Saudi Arabia. Don’t be foolish. The Jihad is being carried out by a hateful, ignorant band of terrorists who are using the disparities of wealth in their region to foster hate so that they can control people into carrying out their means. It’s not any different than the goals of the far left in this country with their class warfare rhetoric.
If they were to defeat us, they would just move on to some other power, and continue to control and manipulate the people under them for their own ends. They would find a new enemy the day we waved the white flag. The war would continue forever, and they would return the world to their mindset, which is hopelessly stuck in the middle ages.
They’re the Nazis in the desert, with a different religion at their core. Nothing more and nothing less. To try to say that they have a point because of something that we did,ie. exploit their recourses, is nonsense. If it weren’t for the West they’d be collecting sea shells. There would be no oil industry, and no riches.
They see the change that the West has gone through, and it scares them. They don’t women to be free or drive, they don’t want homosexuals to exist. They fear the unknown, they fear Jews. The mindset is obvious to anyone who watches their actions; they’re not rational. People with a legit gripe don’t have a cheap Mickey Mouse telling children to hate the Jews on TV. People with a legit gripe don’t go on a WORLDWIDE MURDEROUS rampage because they don’t like some cartoons. They see us as the great Satan because they can’t handle the 20’s century, plain and simple.
Stop acting like they have a legit gripe. Stop feeding into the lies and the distortions. The United States has done NOTHING wrong. If we occupied a country, then that was probably the one time that that country has had stability for a long time. People will go off because we hit the one leader from Iran back in the 50’s but they have no idea who he was or what he was really about. There were probably a lot of people who were thankful that we were there (in Iraq and Saudi Arabia). If we have our army in Saudi Arabia, it’s because they were shit scared that Saddam was going to roll in with his Russian tanks. WE STOPPED THAT! And for that we get attacked by people who are said to be mad about what we did to Saddam? Make up your mind, do they hate Saddam or love him? Israel could go back to the pre 67 borders and they’d still be insane and dangerous. They wouldn’t stop with destruction of Israel, they would try to kill all of the Jews, worldwide. Why do I have to tell people this? How is it not obvious?
What would they have to do to prove to the world what they really are? What would have to be done for people to see who and what they really are, and what they really stand for?
he’s trippin on crack
I keep ignoring Dr. Paul, but he won’t go away. The only thing more irritating was the smarmy, snarky questions CNN put on the crawl. They served a purpose – not so subtley sniping at the candidates, just like Paul serves their purpose of showing the GOP as a bunch of screw loose, ding bats.
Romney is running for moderate manager of this mess, NOT a leader who will fix and eliminate problems.
Bachmann was more animated, almost shrill. She nailed ObamaCare.
Newt, brilliant and unelectable as usual.
Perry didn’t shine. Cain did, at times showing his great sense of humor.
Santorum tried hard, but he’s not getting any traction.
Huntsman, Paul? Fugettaboutit!
By the way, why isn’t Rich Santorum the front runner?
@xerocky: because the media and GOP elite doesn’t want him to be, that is why. In ’06, he got hardly any support from the Party, ensuring that he lose. No matter how solid his responses, no matter how good he looks, the talking heads will always go to Perry or Obamneycare or Bachmann, to draw our attention toward those three.
xerocky says:
September 13, 2011 at 7:52 am
“They’re the Nazis in the desert, with a different religion at their core.”
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Funny you mention that. The Nazis had no religion at their core…Hitler was an avowed atheist whose favorite author/”philosopher” was Friederich Nietzsche. In addition, the extreme anti-Semitism on display in amongst Muslim nations today is eerily similar to that of the Nazis…prabably because many Muslim nations were supportive of the Axis Powers and worked closely with them during the war. I’ve even seen some Nazi posters reproduced in Arabic…
Ron Paul is right. You might not agree with him but the CIA started meddling in Iran in the 50s. We installed the Shah in Iran and they’ve had a hard on for us ever since. Bin Laden was created by US. Dr Paul Is right on the money about the blowback from Middle East meddling. Truth is everlasting. It will bear itself out whether Ron Paul is the messenger or not, truth will always prevail so hate away.
Though I myself lean libertarian, as more & more Americans are doing, Ron Paul, quite frankly, is an antisemite, so it’s no surprise that Paul is willfully selective in which of al-Qaeda’s intentional doublespeak narratives he has chosen to point to. I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt, that he is just plain ignorant about the other al-Qaeda narrative, *but* there is no excuse for such willful ignorance, especially when many people have tried to educate him, but he clings to his antisemitic conspiracy theories.
The man is 76 years old, He doesn’t know Islam or history
However good his “stated” aims are he’s too old and too naive
but he does, like Perry, know how to sell out his country to get the Muslim vote.
Eff Luap Nor and his brain dead disciples who show up always on schedule like fleas on camel shit every time his name is mentioned.
At least we know where Paul stands re: islam. Still waiting to hear from a few other candidates.
We’ve been attacking the Middle East since the 1950′s you ignorant blood-lusting subhuman fake conservative neo-cons.
Another Paulturd shows up with his tinfoil hat.
The ignorance of the Anti-Ron Paul crowd is astounding. You people are so fucking backwards in your thought process, no wonder we keep sending charlatans and con men to DC again & again.
Ron Paul was right on the money. It amazes me how many of my fellow freedom loving Americans can’t seem to put the shoe on the other foot. If twenty Americans went and blew up 3000 people in china would that give China the right to occupy the U.S? Even if elements of our government financed those 20 Americans who did so? The answer is NO. They also wouldn’t have the right to set up a puppet government they control either. Or take our resources to finance their war and then call it repayment for the great service of liberating us from our capitalist overlords. That is exactly what we did in Iraq. Use your brain if you have one, any of you morons. Most of us would be pouring into the streets rifles in hand to destroy the communist thugs who were occupying our nation. We would call ourselves freedom fighters! The Chinese would call us terrorists. You know this to be the truth. You are afraid of the truth because you know what the implications of that kind of war would be. You have been used,enslaved, and pay the very cost of your enslavement to stop “terrorists”. You people are fools. Ron Paul may not be eloquent but at least he isn’t a liar.
@ Ripped
Shouldn’t you be in a time machine and stand next to the American Firsters circa 1941 with your head in the sand isolationism and pie in the sky nonsense?
@vagabond trader
At least we know where Paul stands re: islam. Still waiting to hear from a few other candidates.
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None of them are going to come out and say that Islam is a threat to the civilized world, and I mean none of them and that includes St. Sarah of Wasilla. Even Ronaldus Magnus would not come out and say that.
@Jimmy
Another Paulturd shows up with his tinfoil hat.
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Amazing how they all come out in a swarm.
@46&2
Why should I even bother? You reply to my argument with what? Four words, a link, and an insult? How about this: screw you.
@ SarahSmile
You sound as if you speak from personal experience. Actually you sound like the typical sheep who do what their TV tells them to do.
And Ron Paul is not an anti-semite. That belief comes from Ron Paul’s commitment to ending all foreign aid. Israel is the leading partaker of US foreign aid so they would be the greatest hit. But you know who comes next? All of those damn Middle Eastern nations who we have been funding their terrorism for decades now.
He’s not being an anti-semite, he’s being fair and he’s cutting the budget on all fronts. If Israel gets the screw, then the rest of the Middle East gets the screw too. And for all we know, our soldiers are being cut to shreds by US bought and paid for bombs anyway.
Ripped is exactly right.
@Ripped says:
September 13, 2011 at 12:01 pm
@ SarahSmile
You sound as if you speak from personal experience. Actually you sound like the typical sheep who do what their TV tells them to do.
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and you sound like a cult member – the type that would follow Charles Tex Watson into Sharon Tate’s home to slaughter 8 people or the type to follow Jim Jones in drinking the poisoned Kool Aid. You guys are just like the LaRouchites I used to see near Hancock Park when I was living in Los Angeles.
i guess i`ll take the opinions of you paul haters over the opinions of the 9/11 commission, the cia, and michael scheuer-the head of the cia bin laden unit.
keep trying you fools
@ Ripped. I think you have an overly simplistic view of the Middle East. The world does run on oil still, and we need to secure that oil. Saddam was a tyrant and a “loose cannon.” The world is better off without him. You are right to allude about about the way Muslims refuse to accept our “corrupt” (in their view) Western ways. All the more reason to be wary of Islamist ideology and those who would insinuate sharia law into Western countries.
WRONG! The islamos attack us because the are SATAN worshippers and it’s in the cockran to kill and murder for fun. And the FAKEastinians have the same book and philosophy as the other islamo SATAN worshippers. KNOW your ENEMY, they hate just because it feels good! They don’t care if you are here or there, they slober at the thought of murdering.
funny how so many of “dr.” Paul’ s posts by his supporters are riddled with syntax errors.
Whether it’s not knowing the difference between two to & too, or has & have being misused so frequently; I can’t shake the nagging suspicion that many of his on line supporters are uploading from internet cafe’s in the Muslim World. More Specifically Yellastinians posting from Gaza & the West Bank.
Or Judea & Sumaria as I like to call them.
@mrteachersir,
It’s pretty obvious isn’t it? I mean, there’s this guy with solid conservative cred. and he’s Presidential. Gives what seem to me to be the best answers…. and yet it’s Perry, Bachman, Paul (the nut) and Rommney all day long, 24/7.
I NEVER hear anybody in the MSM brind up Santorum. Very rare if they even mention him at all. It’s like they don’t want a compotent president.
@xerocky Santorum is a has been… all pro-life up until you are 18 then he wants to send you off to war to die trying to slay one of the beasts half way around the world. Pro-life does not end when you are born… Starting wars is not pro-life no matter how you slice it. It is also not in line with the Just War Doctrine in the bible.
Next the fact you all seem to think Paul is crazy because he does not support killing over a billion people is very telling. You guys are calling nothing for nothing short of a ‘final solution’ for the ‘muslim problem.’ One does not have to like Paul to see the rightious evil being typed here is just wrong on all levels: Moral, Political, and Religious. Shame on all of you.
@xerocky
It’s like they don’t want a compotent president.
how true!
We did kill millions of iraqi’s before 9/11. We killed them when we gave weapons to other countries that went to war with iraq, and we killed them when 1,000,000 children were killed because of our sanctions.
Ron Paul is right, we need to stop invading and bombing places and worry about our own people. America is a mess right now, we don’t need to spend trillions on wars that are not being won.
No last word for Paulniaks
FURP
@Jeff
I hate to burst your bubble but, WE GAVE WEAPONS TO IRAQ! Not Iran. And regarding the UN sanctions, Saddam had a choice and chose to let his people suffer while spending the money on military weapons and gadgets (like that giant cannon, which he claimed would hit Israel and could not be stopped), and his lavish palaces and sons. And the number of children killed because of the santions? I doubt any……
The fact that you are soooo ignorant regarding these things amazes me!
Please someone in the house, call a Doctor! The doctor needs a doctor!
Wow, the comments on here are sadly less educated than the comments from the debate last night.
Where to being? Since I can see it from this box…
@Katherine
I hate to burst your bubble but, WE GAVE WEAPONS TO IRAN! And IRAQ! And Libya! And Afghanistan! Actually, sorry I was wrong… we sold them. Have to keep the economy going somehow. The fact you are soooo ignorant regarding these things amazes me. Read more than one page of your history book next time.
@fubar
wtf are you talking about? The Iraqi war was started after 9/11/01? Only if you were born after 9/11/01. Have you heard of Desert Storm? Maybe attacking Iraq after they invaded Kuwait does not quite count as a war… correct me if I am wrong.
@arabianmoondog
Arabianmoondog just does not understand what *propaganda* is either since you seem to believe what the media and government tells you about the wars we are in.
@katherine (again, sorry I missed this one earlier)
“Anyone with idealized notions of Buddhism as a religion fully committed to peace and non-violence will benefit from this fine collection. Outlining how a range of Buddhists have participated in war and justified this apparent violation of their ethical principles, these essays shed new light on sacred violence, just-war discourse, religious nationalism, and religious institutions’ collaboration with the state. This is a rich and timely book.” —Christopher Ives reviewing Buddhist Warfare by Michael Jerryson and Mark Juergensmeyer
Buddhist and Muslims have been fighting pretty much as long as Muslims and Jews, so that might be a reason why they are fighting in Thailand. So again PLEASE go read more than one page of your history book.
@thunderlizard (good job reading more than one page of your history book but maybe you should try to get the whole story. I have read somewhere that it is great to use “defense” as a reason to attack)
1953 Iranian coup d’etat – maybe the US taking out an elected official and installing a horrible regime was not such a good idea
June 6, 1982 – Your wonderful friends Israeli friends invaded Southern Lebanon.
Why don’t all of you go and take a look and see who has the most military support. What candidate has happened to receive more funding from people in the the military than all other candidates combined?
The fallacy here is that our current foreign policy does not defend our country from Islamist terror. Our actions have facilitated over 100,000 civilian deaths in Iraq since 2003 when we invaded, both from our own missiles and terrorist suicide attacks, and you feel this isn’t wrong? Disgusting. Our actions have inspired psychos all over the globe to blow themselves up. Before 2003 suicide attacks in Iraqi were very uncommon. In 2003 (when we invaded) there were 23 suicide attacks in Iraq over one year. In 2007 (When the USA executed the Iraq War troop surge) there were 442 suicide attacks over one year. Our presence overseas literally brings with it death and anti-American sentiment.
..all the same terminology and tone of speech, makes me wonder if all you paul haters are really 1 or 2 people just changing names….
US foreign policy from the 50′s, 60′s and 70′s resulted in al-Qaida, al-Qaida its seed was formed way before Afghanistan in the 80′s. Gradually foreign policy got better in my view, under Reagan, Bush, Clinton poor Bush never had a chance he just had war to deal with.
Leaving the Syrians to be gassed by Assad was old Washington, to instead steal Libyan oil. That what Egyptians in Tahrir are talking about, the veto and Syria. Backing down on the settlements and the way it was handled led to Major Hasan the Palestinian kill people.
The veto will inflame people across the mid east against the US. As Mick Scheuer said it is foreign policy now right or wrong you have to understand it. Basically a lot of these problems can be avoided via “Smart Power”, we could have avoided Hasan and the settlement problem, the peace process getting bogged down and being forced to use the veto. Presidents from Carter to 43 had managed to avoid this situation.
Cheney and Rumsfeld both offer their resignations to the President and as this is mainly out of State I mean it is diplomacy then the resignation should come from there to start with.