California: Councilman Names Dog “Mohammed,” CAIR Demands He Apologize…
His other dog is named “America,” but for some reason I don’t share CAIR’s outrage.
(Patch) — Naming his dog Muhammad, and later announcing it during a public meeting, was not meant to be disparaging to Muslims, San Juan Capistrano Councilman Derek Reeve said Tuesday.
In offering the first explanation of why he chose the name, Reeve said it was a decision made by his family in an exercise of free speech after teaching his children that in some parts of the world they could be sentenced to death for doing so.
Reeve mentioned his dogs’ names Sept. 6 (the other is named America), as the council voted on plans for a dog park in the Northwest Open Space.
Kramer asked the council to discuss its standards of conduct and to rewrite its rules on decorum — requests that went unfulfilled.
Reeve, commenting on the 45-minute discussion that ensued with comments from the public, said, “What’s most offensive [to me] is that we’re not talking about anything important. We’re talking about my damned dog.”
Mayor Sam Allevato also had harsh words for Reeve.
“You have to be really careful about what you say” from the dais, Allevato cautioned. “These types of comments are not acceptable” and could lead to what some could consider a hostile work environment for City Hall employees, he said.
Allevato said a Muslim in the audience during the last City Council meeting was offended by Reeve’s remark. He also said allowing such comments to be made would be a “slippery slope.”
But Karen Lugo, a Riverside attorney who specializes in free speech, said “council members are free to speak in their individual capacity as public leaders.”
“There is just simply no authority” to regulate decorum, she said.
Although stories about Reeve’s comment got picked up by local and national media, Reeve said he received 100 emails supporting him.
On Friday, the Greater Los Angeles area office of the Council on American-Islamic Relations asked Reeve to apologize for his comment. In a press release, it said he showed “disrespect toward Islam’s revered prophet Muhammad by making [the] derisive public comment.”
“I’m asking for decorum on the dais. Yet if we can’t do that, all is lost,” Kramer said, adding that this is “not a Muslim issue.”
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Apologize… to the dog.
is the whole dog named mohammud or just what flows from the anus of the dog.
“You have to be really careful about what you say”
More threats on our freedoms.
Bravo to this man who “gets it” and is teaching his kids to “get it.”
Oh yeah, good doggie Mohammed.
Reeve…PLEASE just give CAIR you’re middle finger and tell them to stick it where the sun doesn’t shine!
Enough already from our enemies within!
My rottweiler is named Stryker, quite, strong and deadly, all with good reason. I think naming a dog after a pedophile and murderer is definately an insult to all canines. Change his damned ( literally ) name!!!!
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Yeah Janna, problem is he has to say that horrid name all the time, unless he calls him Moe.
When the Islamists apologize for 9/11 . . . then we can listen. Until then, they are just a noise.
He should get a third dog. Name it “Go F yourself”.
Piglet_U93 says:
September 21, 2011 at 6:20 pm
That is frightening. Could have come from several different places, though. This is a story I am going to watch closely.
What a ROTTEN thing to do…to an innocent dog.
This country is officially insane
So what? barry named his dog after himself….. BO
AND, isn’t this the same town that fined the Bible Study Group?
In a way, it’s really not funny.
In MANY countries, you could be executed for this.
Islam is the most fucked up “religion” on the planet.
I wonder how many pets are named Moses?
He was a “prophet” I guess… I don’t see any Jews killing anyone over it.
He could have named him Ole, or Sven and I wouldn’t care. Heck, go ahead and call the dog Geronimo. They all sound like good names to me.
As for the dog’s current name- Ya, maybe apologize to the dog, though.
Well, I would feel the same way if he named his dog Jesus, or Holy Mother of God. Others might feel slighted if he named his dog Mahmut Ghandi, or His Royal Majesty George Washington, or Martin Luther King. It’s not just a name, is it.
How many murderers, terrorists and assorted deviants are named mohammed? Of course, that doesn’t matter.
Never heard of a Christian taking offense at someone being named Jesus.
Remember the old line, “If you want a good dog, give him a good name?”
http://youtu.be/d2xqNwG6nqM
I named my pig Mohammad, does that count?
‘In early 1956, a Nepalese traveler in New Delhi lost his dog whom he had innocently named Mohammed. “Lost, from the Hindustan Hotel, one fox breed dog, brown color, long hair, answers to name Muhammad.” Local Muslims greeted the ad with the usual level of tolerance and restraint they are well known for. Thousands of them gathered in the streets, the newspaper apologized for the ad and the owner was arrested for insulting Mohammed, not the dog, but the man.
Yet is it Mohammed who should be insulted for being associated with a dog, or the dog who should be insulted for being associated with a mass murderer, rapist and pedophile?
A dog is loyal, Mohammed betrayed those who trusted him to keep his word. A dog learns the rules and follows them, Mohammed invented his laws and violated them whenever he saw something he wanted– such as his son’s wife. But most of all a dog loves honestly and truly. Islam teaches its followers the violent cruelty of the animal, but suppresses the natural affection, the sense of joy that living things are meant to have.
“There are no jokes in Islam. There is no humor in Islam. There is no fun in Islam,” Khomeini said. Additionally there is no mercy, no tolerance, no trust, no faith, no honor, no decency and nothing but deceit and death. There is no room in it for the simple virtues of a dog or the higher virtues of a man.
From the dogs who walk the front lines in Afghanistan to the rescue dogs who took the lead at Ground Zero, to the animals who are tortured and murdered every day in the Muslim world– we can learn courage, loyalty and friendship. While the media insists on telling us how much we can learn from Islam– there is more of goodness, decency and honor to be learned from a dog, than there is from the entire Koran.’
http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2011/09/our-canine-heroes-and-islamic.html
Amen.
Damn it, you guys! He’s right.
He has to apologize….
….to the dog.
To Rufus, My CB (remember them) handle was “Moses”, and everybody thought I was a rabbi.
I think the Councilman is a COOL DUDE. Since that dog looks pretty mean, I would say he should tell CAIR to try “beheading” the dog, and see what muslim hamburger looks like!!!
Somebody has GOT to get a pair of funny looking pigs and name them Mohammed and Allah.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/sweden/8778999/Swedish-cartoonist-target-of-foiled-attack.html
Bet lots of people will start naming their dogs Mohammed! Sheesh, talk about thin skin! They should (the muslims) at least try to get over themselves.
I name every pig I see, mohammad allah.
tD
PETA should demand an apology for the dog.
Anyone who has a pig should name it MoHAMmad
I named my Siberian Husky ‘Gabriel’ after the Archangel, in hopes that he would not be an evil little shit, who chews up my shoes and sharpens his teeth on my table legs. Unfortunately, it didn’t work.
But, I would never insult my dog with a name like Mohammad.
The man needs to make a donation to the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals.
Tell CAIR to take their appology and shove up their turbans
I think we should all chip in and send him a few bags of ‘Beggin Strips’! Mmmmmmmm! Bacon.
I hope that dog has security. You know the peaceful muslims will kill him.
As an animal lover, this dog deserves better than this. Name him George after the father of our country. You better watch that poor dog. What a cruel thing to do to an innocent animal. It’s like the idiots at an animal shelter that named a cat Kitler, because he had a Hitler type mustache. I hope whoever adopted him changed that name. I probably would adopt him, just to do that. Why would you name your dog this, and associate him with 9/11?
Nasty thing to do to a pooch.
Couldn’t he have picked something a bit more benign? Maybe “Gollum” or something like that.
At any rate, watch your bone, America.
Damn disgrace!!……………………to the dog.
Freedom of speech only if it does not offend potential terrorists that might kill you for such an act??? That does not sound fair……
Note to self: Shop around for another 1,000 ends of .223 and a few hundred more in .308…..
Oh yes, this is such an OFFENSE to the tender sensibilities of muslims. Cair rushes in from the corners of every part of America, seemingly, to come to the rescue and demand apologies and/or concessions. F*ck ‘em. It’s a free country. You don’t like it? Tough.
Where oh where are all the hand-wringers when “artists” drop Jesus’ cross into a jar of p*ss….or worse? No, Christians just have to take it. Cair makes me sick. Islam makes me sick.
If CAIR were full of sensible people who didn’t worship a child molester, they would have left the dog alone and demanded apologies from Mr. and Mrs. Atta for naming their murdering bastard child after their beloved prophet. But they didn’t do that, did they?
His kids sure learned a good lesson about free speech, didn’t they? Not the one that was intended, but a lesson nevertheless.
@S. Wolf
Thanks for the reference to the article. Well worth the read!
Well, The Boys just got surnames
Ace Abu no Fuka
Deuce Khan Poopa
Spike Amir de Tail
garrettc says:
September 21, 2011 at 6:35 pm
Well, I would feel the same way if he named his dog Jesus, or Holy Mother of God. Others might feel slighted if he named his dog Mahmut Ghandi, or His Royal Majesty George Washington, or Martin Luther King. It’s not just a name, is it.
@garrettc,
Something tells me you lie! Besides, your analogy does not make sense. Plenty of people name their children Jesus and Mary and George and Washington and Martin and Luther and probably yes, even King (although I can’t say that I know one). Who cares? Get beyond it and quit whining. How many people share the name Muhammed? Probably as many as those sharing Mary. Why is islam such a weak religion that they are so easily offended by a word? Or a stuffed bear named Mohammed? It’s not like anyone is naming their dog Allah – that would be different.
I hope Reeve does not back down.
I had to shoot my dog one time. At least my dog was good looking and not ugly.
Who’s Kramer?
I think it’s terrible, his naming the dog that……….. you’ll have to excuse me now, I have to go to the bathroom and take a HUGE mohammed.
Let’s call the dog “Jesus” and call whatever comes out of the dog’s rear “Mohammed.”
This is the message that the councilman needs to send to CAIR
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That is just so wrong, it’s animal abuse.
I am completely offended! The audacity of calling a canine a muslim, oh the shame! I am embarrassed for canine’s worldwide! The next thing we will see will be insults on swine!
We used to have these neighbors and they had a cockateil named RASTIS and thats a racsist word
Maybe he named the dog mohammed because he wanted a mean ass mofo killer dog what to protect his family from barbarians.
I call my penis Mohammed. Watch the muzzies bow.
“Naming his dog Muhammad, and later announcing it during a public meeting, was not meant to be disparaging to Muslims, San Juan Capistrano Councilman Derek Reeve said Tuesday.”
He might not have “meant” it, but he darn well knew it. Good on him anyway!
Hope they don’t put a fatwa out on the poor animal.
I named by morning bowel-movement “Mohammed”.
Perfect name for such an ugly dog…
Ohhhhhh Damn! I just took a huge, messy muhammed
and we’re out of toilet paper.
“Honey, are there any pages left in that book with the squigly
letters? We’re out of TP.”