Groan: Ron Paul Condemns Killing Of Al-Qaeda Cleric Anwar Al-Awlaki…
Even though Anwar al-Awlaki was directly responsible for the killing of 13 U.S. soldiers in the Ft. Hood terror attack, Ron Paul says “no one knows if he killed anybody,” hence we should have allowed him to continue plotting to kill Americans from his safe haven in Yemen.
MANCHESTER NH (NBC News) — Ron Paul aggressively criticized President Obama today for al-Awlaki’s death.
“No I don’t think that’s a good way to deal with our problems,” Paul said in a media avail after his remarks at the Politics + Eggs event here. “He was born here, Al-Awlaki was born here, he is an American citizen. He was never tried or charged for any crimes. No one knows if he killed anybody. We know he might have been associated with the underwear bomber. But if the American people accept this blindly and casually that we now have an accepted practice of the president assassinating people who he thinks are bad guys, I think it’s sad.
“I think what would people . . . have said about Timothy McVeigh? We didn’t assassinate him, who certainly he had done it. Went and put through the courts then executed him. To start assassinating American citizens without charges, we should think very seriously about this.”
Does he feel the same about Bin Laden?”
Not exactly. Because he was involved in 9/11 and I voted for authority to go after those individuals responsible for 9/11. Al-Awlaki nobody ever suggested that he was participant in 9/11.”
Posted by ZIP on Friday, September 30, 2011, at 10:27 am | 
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Why did the Obama administration never try Awlaki in abscentia? Is that proper in the United States?
Why did they never dispute the citizenship of someone who has openly declared war against the United States?
SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP
This is to you Nor Luan and to Chris Christie and all the commies who are crying that their world is in chaos!
The military remains blameless in this:
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“I, [name], do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign AND DOMESTIC; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.”
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Rand Paul – the undisputed “King of Bizarre”.
Your rights as a citizen are bestowed upon you at birth.
Commit a felony and you lose some of these rights.
Become an alQaeda and you lose them all.
Why does this concept elude so many?
It’s called the Rule of Law, folks. Anyone who is a true conservative will want to conserve…the Rule of Law. It’s not rocket science.
This issue is about Obama’s “prosecutor discretion”, that special new power that the President created for himself that say he only has to prosecute the laws that he agrees with.
This is a serious and intentional procedural error committed by an office holder who was elected on the basis that he uphold ALL THE LAWS of the United States.
Awlaki certainly deserved to die (i hope it was painful), but his legal status should have been determined BEFORE his death sentence was carried out.
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Thanks for pointing out the obvious, Robert.
Hey Rufus…
Maybe because the public has been dumbed down so much that they cannot even find where they live on a map.
Maybe because those that are “educated” have been taught by the failed products of earlier failed education system.
Maybe because common sense as disappeared from the American vocabulary.
Sad ain’t it???
As they were expanding the War on Terror, Republicans/Conservatives said that this would never happen to US citizens. There’s no turning back now….
The ole’ gummer has gone totally batshit crazy.
I, too, condemn the extrajudicial assassinations of US citizens. For those conservatives that don’t care about the Constitution but only themselves — it’s pretty obvious the types of people the present regime considers “terrorists” & “extremists,” so if you support such unconstitutional civil liberties-denying indefinite preventive detentions, assassinations instead of trials for US citizens, etc, you are legitimizing new tyrannical executive powers that may well be used against you.
BREAKING NEWS, THIS JUST IN !!!!!!!
Ron Paul is still an IDIOT.
The wording of the 5th Amendment clearly states that a trial AND conviction must precede every sentence.
It’s a concept called ‘Due Process’.
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“No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.”
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Constipated brain at work.
And people want this man as president?
God help us all.
And some people want this man as president?
God help us all.
Reason # 5001 why he shouldn’t be president.
And this senile old bastard wants to be president.
Heaven help us. 
Allah-awlaki gave up all rights a citizen when he joined Al-Queda. 
Can we kill the sonofabitch twice?
The guy announced that he was an enemy combatant, prosecuted war and…TREASON against the United states of America and killing him is … sad? Im confused
So the president can now kill American citizens without due process?
Dr. Paul is 100% on speaking out about this complete disregard for US law by Obama.
As much as everyone doesn’t like it, Anwar al-Awlaki was an American citizen and you cannot just go and kill an American citizen without a trial. Plain and simple! As crazy as this assclown was, American citizens have American rights!
@ gastorgrab at 10:52
Yes. Anything else is an erosion of the law.
From the time of another “war,” the Rosenberg trial sprang to mind. Trial and conviction.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_and_Ethel_Rosenberg
I guess Ron Paul thinks he was in Yemen drinking Tea and doing the Hucklebuck.
Dawg–I see the point, but he’s waging war on Americans, so I say snuff him. But this means that waterboarding should now be viewed as no biggy. Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld didn’t go anywhere as far as the big guy has gone with this assassination. Let’s use it to exonerate waterboarding.
Please let Ron Paul keep talking, please. The more he opens his mouth, the deeper his foot goes into it
The US now targets and kills American citizens without any due process?
And you liberals are cheering this? This is crazy! I don’t want the US Gov’t to have that authority to come after anyone it pleases. Could as well be one of us!
Wise up already.
Can you say,’Texas Toast’?
Many on this site have correctly identified the risk and the blatant disregard by our government for the constitution they have sworn to uphold. The killing of a bad guy is not at question here. The power we so easily give up to our government to kill anyone THEY consider a threat without a trial to determine guilt is the question. If they can do it to him they can do it to anyone and we will all blindly praise the action because some talking head proclaimed him to be a bad guy. Its very scary… If you think supporting this government action means you are protecting the US and getting back at the bad guys, You are dead wrong. Just the opposite. Supporting this is making the world a much more dangerous place. Think people. put aside your preconceptions and look at the bigger picture.
Ron Paul is way beyond STFU and rapidly approaching FOAD territory.
The list of electable republican canidates just got one shorter.
The fact that Anwar al-Awlaki has declared jihad on the U.S. supersedes his “rights” as a citizen for a trial under the US Constitution. He chose to renounce his citizenship with his self-declared war on the people of the United States and his flight to Yemen to avoid the arm of justice.
Could they have had a “trial” in absentia—yes. But we know that would have been a joke!
Treasonous actions and a renouncement of his citizenship whether publically or by own his actions proves he is not a citizen! He is directly responsible for organizing terrorist attacks all over the globe, directly here in the U.S., and he is a top lieutenant of Al-qeda.
For all you Ronnettes…if your dude didn’t shake your Obottish loyalty by claiming a nuclear Iran is a threat to no one, then his support of Al Awhacky’s right to not be a target as a Mislamic fanatical enemy of America probably won’t break through your RPbot fog either. Remember like O.whodat, Al Awhacky was born a dual citizen and was not a natural born citizen, if he hadn’t been whacked he too could have been a Bogus POTUS someday by the same-ignoring-of-the eligibility clause of the constitution that lets the Charlatan in Chief keep his job…jobbing us.
From the article, that ZIP claims proves Alwaki was directly reponsible for the Ft. Hood Attacks:
WASHINGTON — Intelligence agencies intercepted communications last year and this year between the military psychiatrist accused of shooting to death 13 people at Fort Hood, Tex., and a radical cleric in Yemen known for his incendiary anti-American teachings. But the federal authorities dropped an inquiry into the matter after deciding that the messages from the psychiatrist, Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, did not suggest any threat of violence and concluding that no further action was warranted… …After the Sept. 11 attacks, Mr. Awlaki was quoted as disapproving of such violence …
How was he directly responsible? You may not agree with Alwaki, but he is an American who was executed without a trial, and he never declared war on America. Think about the implications of that.
About the citizen issue–have you noticed how many jihadis in the US got citizenship? They must have assumed it would protect them.
I am sensitive to the due process point, and the slippery slope, but when a “citizen” wages jihad or plots to wage jihad, I think they forfeit their rights and if it means snuffing them to prevent an attack on us, I’m OK with that. Just coat the bullets with pig blood first please. And put the word out on the street that we’re doing that.
al-Alwaki made himself a target by actively fighting for the other side.
This is usually called “Treason”, and, in most societies, “Treason” has traditionally been punished by death.
(By the way—does his death now mean that cartoonist Molly Norris, against whom he issued a fatwa, can come out of hiding?)
Yes, MADgirl, I’m very dubious about some of these “citizens” who seem to see their “citizenship” as some sort of impenetrable shield, that will protect them against any retribution for their treason. (See my post on Treason, above.)
The Constitution, and our rule of law, was never meant to be a suicide pact.
The Obama administration had plenty of time to address the legal status of Anwar Al Awlaki. They could have stripped him of citizenship for waging war against the US. The administration chose to sit on it’s hands instead.
The question is not over whether Awlaki deserved to die or not. The issue is that the Obama administration incorrectly applied the time proven procedures that protect the freedoms of Americans. It is the American system that guarantees our freedom. Our leaders are only caretakers of that system.
The correct sequence of steps should have been something like:
1. Apply long-standing rules for revoking the citizenship of an American who wages war against his own country. ‘Treason’ has been a valid reason in the past to revoke the citizenship of an American.
2. Declare him an official ‘enemy who is fighting for a foreign interest’.
3. Smoke his ass.
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V, al-Alwaki was with the enemy, in Yemen, when he was snuffed out. He was implicated in many plots against the U.S., not to mention his fatwa in the Molly Norris case.
If he really wanted to be a good, peaceable American citizen, he wouldn’t have gotten involved with the jihadis in the first place. He would have stayed in the U.S.
Think of the implications of that.
Obama is not the authority in the United States. Our Constitution is.
Good to see some people actually get the whole “law” thing.
However, proving once again that conservatives cherry pick from/ignore the Constitution to serve their own agenda as much as liberals do, we have the other half of the posts.
@Rhinestone
The second part of your statment with a twist:If Joe-six-pack really wanted to be a good, peaceable American citizen, he wouldn’t have gotten involved with the TEA party in the first place.
I’m just saying, be careful of the power we give the Government today, because they WILL use it against you tomorrow.
Um, Paul is actually right about this.
There was no proof he killed anyone. Al-Awlaki was a POS, but come on. I guess laws arent important anymore???
The very same charges can be brought against the Obama administration for project Gun Walker.
The administration’s CHOICE of action directly led to the deaths of Americans. Those Americans had not only never been convicted of a crime, they had never been accused of wrongdoing. They were sentenced to death over a CHOICE that the Constitution never granted the White House the privileged to make.
The Constitution defines the structure of our free society. Our existence should not be based on the whims of those in power.
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The only explanation i can think of for why the Obama administration never addressed the legal status of Awlaki is because they were planning on using this example to push their agenda. They are still trying to convince the American people that the attacks of 911 were some sort of large-scale vandalism, instead of an act of war. Even now they are still acting as if Islamist terrorism is a criminal act. (thank George Soros for this)
The administration sat on it’s hands for two and a half years instead of stripping Awlaki of his citizenship. This is obviously how the Obama White House addresses “criminal acts” (their own words) of violence against the United States.
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In is present State he is harmless. .Hence we are without harm.
MADgirl91…snuff him AFTER a trial by his peers…
V in PA, your average Joe Six Pack isn’t running around with Al-Queda in Yemen. He wasn’t involved in the Ft. Hood shooting, the fatwa on Molly Norris and various other plots against the U.S.
And, no, joining Al-Queda, and actually waging war against the U.S., is not some freedom of speech issue, like supporting candidate X over candidate Y, or writing articles on whatever subject one pleases, or protesting whatever you feel like.
The Tea Party is not waging war against America. Al-Queda is.
It’s treason. This is not covered by “Freedom of speech”.
The government, and our elites, such as George Soros, are already using power against us; they support our enemies abroad (remember Obama’s bow to the Saudi king?), while disparaging allies, such as England and Israel, and trying to convince us that Islam is our friend. Look at the government reaction to the Ft. Hood shootings.
Straw poll dominator.
I don’t get it.
This man, born in America, left and than declared allegiance to the enemies of America and ineffect declared war on America and American citizens and some of you want to say that he has American citizen right? This man is/was a TERRORIST! He gave up all rights once he became a terrorist. Do you honestly believe he would give you those same rights if captured by a terrorist group? Wake the fuck up and grow up. You dont play softball with terrorists and go all wishy washy on them like the spineless liberals do. Why the fuck do you think the muzzie terrorists and their backers get braver and braver by the day? Because of idiots like Ron Paul, his backers, the loser Left and all these idiot Human Rights groups. Fuck them All! You kill terrorists where they fuckin sleep! Get it?!? This man planned, PLANNED, the deaths of anyone who is/was an infidel in his muslim eyes, be that person and American, German, etc…. And you people want to go all, awwwwwwww dont kill him! WTF is the matter with you?
Hey you RuPaul lovers out there,
Do you think Lincoln should have tried every single soldier of the Confederate armies during the Civil War? They all were American citizens, weren’t they?
Here is the rational explanation: America is at war against the vermin who wages war against her — BTW, the aforementioned vermin has been waging war against the entire world for the last 14 centuries (this is the concept of dar-al-Islam and dar-al-Harb if you dare get educated). Anwar al-Whatever was fighting against the USA, he was an enemy, regardless of his nationality: the US Army is constitutionally mandated to fight the enemies of America, foreign and domestic. Besides, nationality doesn’t matter at all to a mooslime, but you’d actually have to get an education about pisslam to understand that.
Told you, this was the rational explanation: your brains probably hurt now, don’t they?
And no, I am not strictly Conservative, I am an Objectivist. What is it with you punks claiming to be “True Conservatives” now anyway? 2 weeks ago it was still considered an insult among the Paulbots…
He’s right. Again. Our citizens are granted due process by the Fifth Amendment. You don’t lose that just because you change your religion or join up with a bunch of radical scumbags. Am I glad he’s dead? Sure. Did we do it properly? Of course not…because in the war on terror, we’re willing to shred the Constitution and the liberties this damned war is supposed to protect. What is the point?
rvgourik, it hardly matters using reason, or logic, to debate with Ron Paul followers.
They’re first fule is: RON PAUL IS ALWAYS RIGHT!
The second rule: If Ron Paul is not right, SEE THE FIRST RULE!
They’ve always reminded me of the “Hippies in space” in that one Stark Trek episode, “The Way to Eden” (or something like that); if anyone tries to talk to them, or says anything they don’t want to hear, they chant “HERBERT! HERBERT! HERBERT!” (Kinda the Star Trek version of “NEO-CON! NEO-CON! NEO-CON!”)
Rhinestone Suderman: “It’s treason.”
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Specifically, it’s an act of war against the United States.
Awlaki was killed as a ‘citizen’ because Obama and his Liberal minions refuse to call terrorism an “act of war”.
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@Rhinestone
The Tea Party is not waging war against America
How many articles does ZIP have to post about Liberals calling the TEA party terrorists, before you understand that Liberals view us, this website and the TEA party movement the same way we view terrorists.
http://weaselzippers.us/2011/08/15/obama-wont-condemn-biden-for-calling-conservatives-tea-party-terrorists-because-people-have-said-hes-a-socialist/
http://weaselzippers.us/2011/08/08/new-poll-finds-29-believe-tea-partiers-are-terrorists/
http://weaselzippers.us/2011/08/06/flying-pig-alert-ny-times-columnist-apologizes-for-calling-tea-party-republicans-terrorists/
http://weaselzippers.us/2011/08/02/harry-reid-rise-of-the-tea-party-very-very-disconcerting-and-very-unfair-to-american-people/
First they came for ‘them’, and I did not speak up, because I wasn’t one of ‘them’.
Then they came for me
@ gastorgrab @12:58
Really agreeing with your posts today. . .
Because this war is not acknowledged!
“Postpone war to your own disadvantage.” (Machiavelli)
Does he feel the same about Bin Laden?”
Not exactly. Because he was involved in 9/11 and I voted for authority to go after those individuals responsible for 9/11. Al-Awlaki nobody ever suggested that he was participant in 9/11.”
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Wayback machine says:
Rep. Ron Paul, a soon-to-be presidential candidate known for opposing U.S. military intervention overseas, said if he were president, he would not have duplicated President Obama’s plan for taking out the man responsible for the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/05/12/ron-paul-ordered-bin-laden-raid/#ixzz1ZSN6Y5sm
Answer this all who are up in arms like this is the end of the US Costitution:
When a US citizen is firing on our troops on foreign soil do we wait to have their citizenship “officially” renounced before we fire back?
Get it?
To everyone who is worried about a “precedent” being set by Al-Alwaki being killed, since when has a lack of precedent prevented certain politicians from taking non-Constitutional actions? There are Leftists who at the reigns of the government would use imprisonment or execution without trial to enhance and consolidate their vision of Utopia if they thought they could get away with it. They would carry out such actions with or without precedence,.
Al-Alwaki left his country, joined with a foreign terrorist organization, proclaimed himself a citizen of Islam not the United States and actively encouraged and planned the deaths of American citizens. That is a de facto renunciation of citizenship and if that is not grounds for making him a military target then I don’t know what is.
Sure can spot all the Paul supporters in this thread.
The Constitution of the United States, article III section 3
If Anwar Al-Awlaki was walking down main street in Anytown, USA then there would have been a big problem of shooting first and asking questions later for anyone, citizen, or non-citizen.
But the fact of the matter is this POS was in a foreign country waging war on the US and DESERVED to die with no questions asked.
That distinction is good enough for me and I would venture to guess, a majority of Americans.
Hey “Dawg”…..some people just need killin’……plain and simple. Now go escort your crazy uncle back to the basement he escaped from.
Nobody has bothered to explain the US doctrine, including Bush and Obama.
To do serious damage, meaning taking out a US city (not some nightly-news shopping mall fodder), the bad guys need a big organization to handle planning, logistics, finance, and so forth.
The bigger the organization, the easier it is to detect, via footprint and informers and so forth.
The US strategy is to keep the bad guys watching their backs rather than organizing.
So long as the US can detect organizations while they’re smaller than the serious-damage size, the US wins.
One place where detection is not by itself good enough is in failed states, meaning states where the government is not sovereign over its territory.
In these states, the US comes in and takes the bad guys out itself.
This will continue indefinitely, or until the failed state becomes unfailed and does it itself, an outcome we prefer but do not depend on.
Hence nation building, not as a primary mission but as a cost saver.
If a nation is sovereign and allows bad guys to organize anyway, then it’s a matter of ordinary war rather than intervention.
To my surprise, Obama seems to understand this and acts on it.
It would be simpler to explain it, though.
He’d look fab in Pink…
V in PA, I understand how the liberals—and the Paulians—see anybody who disagrees with them.
Islamic terrorists are coming for us.
And two-faced weasels like Ron Paul, George Soros and many who call themselves Democrats/Republicans support them—because they hate America, because they don’t like Israel, because they crave power. . . whatever the reason.
Ron Paul does not support America. He doesn’t care about Americans (he blames us for 9/11); he’s on the other side.
Paulians will scream “HERBERT! HERBERT! HERBERT!” as loudly as they can It doesn’t matter. We can see what he is.
It’s good to see at least a few people making sense in here. But to all you other MORONS saying Ron Paul is wrong, WTF????? No formal charges, no trial, just execution based on the word of the POTUS, and because he said anti-american things and urged people to fight us? Wow. You ALL need to get your sorry asses out of America. This isn’t your country. This action is so baltantly un-Constitutional, and violates EVERY principal our founders stood for. God help you all.
Oh, one more thing. By supporting the un-Constitutional assasination of an American citizen, you have ALL become accesories to treason, and by your own pathetic reasoning, have forfeited your citizenship, and can now be murdered just like Anwar. Idiots.
“Oh, one more thing. By supporting the un-Constitutional assasination of an American citizen, you have ALL become accesories to treason, and by your own pathetic reasoning, have forfeited your citizenship, and can now be murdered just like Anwar. Idiots.”
You mean like Army [Maj] Hassan?
Because I seem to recall several people that day in Tx. trying to “assasinate” his ass too … nearly succeeded.
I haven’t seen anywhere if the POTUS ordered this. If he did, surely this is grounds for impeachment.
paul s…. your comment; “. This isn’t your country.” is realllllllllly off the charts. But thank you for allowing us Un-American folk a home. You are very benevolent . I paid my rent ala nam and so far i figured 51 years paying taxes and still paying i’m entitled to live here.
@Micheal The question is NOT whether Al-Awlaki deserved to die. It is almost certain that he did deserve to die.
However, the most basic purpose of judicial process is NOT to protect the rights of the evil accused criminal — it is to protect society at large from the whimsical actions of people acting with the power and authority of government… government agents who are ultimately otherwise pretty much free to do anything they want to anyone for any reason, and then invent the “good reason” that they “needed” to act, and then tell you that you can’t examine the evidence they supposedly used, because it’s “classified”.
In court, the public has a reasonable idea of the standards and evidence used to convict someone, and thus to authorize the use of government force against them. Here, the standards and evidence used are secret — not only from the public, but hidden from review by the courts.
Certainly it is possible that the majority of the public might agree that the standards and evidence used were good and sufficient…but when the government is allowed to operate in secret, all one really has is “blind faith” that people in government never make mistakes, never draw wrong conclusions, never act wrongly, and then never use their positions of power to cover up their mistakes.
I’m not much on “blind faith” in deities, no less blind faith in politicians and mid-level political proles who know that their decisions are shielded and hidden from public review.
The basic rule – which Ron Paul obviously knows – is that you don’t judge an action by government that exceeds its proper and acknowledged powers by how admirable the aims, or how apparently-special the results are: You judge the action based on whether the government possessed the rightful power and authority to do what it did.
If it didn’t possess the rightful power and authority, then its actions ought to be condemned, even if they “turned out well” — because once the government usurps a new power and retains it,
* it WILL use it again, and again,
* it will use it in (ever) more questionable circumstances, and
* it will eventually seek to enlarge this new power so that it can use it in more flexible ways.
…Or, at least, that’s the utterly consistent evidence that we have regarding governments over the last 2,000 years or so.
We should expand this practice to some US citizens too on US soil. It shouldn’t matter what piece of real estate your on, if you’re a traitor, you’re a traitor. Some people in my city are sympathetic to Al Qaeda, and some other people are openly Communist. They are blatant traitors, no if ands or buts. Once you join these sorts of groups you have given up your rights. Let’s start hunting down these people too, because they’re clearly guilty of being traitors to America, and no longer deserve innate human rights. If you defend these people, then you are also a traitor to our country. No trials needed.
If an American soldier had switched sides and joined the Germans during WWII, would we have had a problem mowing him down as he marched alongside our enemies?
The man was part of targeted war fare and not “assassinated”, the word doesn’t even exist in the Geneva convention, united nations, international case law, or the international criminal court, ya’ll should read online the Armed Forces Journal, article “Hunt To Kill”… ‘Targeted warfare has a legitimate place on the irregular Battlefield’ by A.E Stahl, Ron Paul has surprised me today, he will continue to keep people totally uninformed, because he knows as well as anybody that these terrorist do not need a trial, only in a timely fashion, Congress and the appropriate committee need to be told what is up to snuff.
“…you have ALL become accesories to treason, and by your own pathetic reasoning, have forfeited your citizenship, and can now be murdered”
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Paul “Nut” Schneider…
you have threatened to kill indiscriminately…
you jackass pacifist Paulnuts…love murder… but only of fellow Americans
“you jackass pacifist Paulnuts…love murder… but only of fellow Americans”
says the guy defending the killing of a us citizen without trial.
Who said they have a problem with the death of a terrorist? The problem everyone is having is the unconstitutionality of it. Im sure 100% of us agree the guy was a POS.
Either US citizens have rights, or they dont. But I suppose we should allow people like you to pick and choose who is afforded those rights?
At least it wasn’t Bush who ordered this execution.
Like t or not, this scum was a US citizen who had some fundamental rights.
Because the dithering dimwit Obama can’t figure out what to do with ANY captured terrorists, and heaven forbid we should harshly interrogate them, we all knew it was just a matter of time that all terrorists would just be KILLED. Better dead than water boarded and tried by a military court? In Obama’s book, that’s what we do now and it’s really not ok. This really stinks, folks.
But this particular terrorist, as bad as he was, was summarily executed
without due process American citizen, and if that doesn’t bother us, we are just
stupid.
In fact, Awlaki was given, by the US government, a new title that instantly after his death elevated him to be more a menace than previously thought. This is just wrong.
more a threat so we would cheer this execution.
@ Dex Sinister at 4:15 pm
Well said.
Whether he deserved it or not, this isn’t right! We all know that when you give the government an inch they take a mile. Power is always abused. Who’s next?
ron paul u r an idiot!!!
Who said they have a problem with the death of a terrorist?
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you did…
The problem everyone is having is the unconstitutionality of it.
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Is it unconstitutional to kill a foreign national terrorist before he kills you…
which is exactly what Anwar was…
he renounced his citizenship…..when he took up arms with AQ…
and based himself in Yemen…
Anwar returned to the country of his father… and led a war of terrorism
But I suppose we should allow people like you to pick and choose who is afforded those rights?
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Your pacifist judgement is clouded by a desire to harbor terrorists
Anwar was not an American citizen…
he returned to the country of his father…
and took up arms against the US and Europe
he followed the quran… and followed the tenets laid out by such…
namely jihad…
wantonly murdering non muslims… not only in Yemen..
but also exported his terror…
You know, if you stop saying “RUMPELSTILSKIN!”, he’d stop appearing, and we could stop hearing his asinine opinions.
Ron Paul clearly suffering from chronic constipation. He should just STFU.
by the way Bor..
you have no problem with Paul “Nuts” Schneider making a statement like this
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“…you have ALL become accesories to treason, and by your own pathetic reasoning, have forfeited your citizenship, and can now be murdered”
…Paul “Nut” Schneider…
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so you are also advocating the murder of US citizens…
@Rob Thank you sir. I am trying to determine which are the biggest wackos, Obotts or Paulbots. It’s pretty damn close.
Denis said – Could as well be one of us!
I think if any of us are al qaeda then all bets are off on your ass if you are waging war against citizens. I believe somewhere in the constitution regarding treason, that only 2 witnesses are needed to establish that and if congress gives the okay, then no court is necessary.
What the fuck is wrong with people defending al qaeda? Are these people regulars here or popped out of nowhere?
Are these people regulars here or popped out of nowhere?
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They popped in from Memeorandum.
http://www.memeorandum.com/
WE are listed 7th on first story hence the incoming. And the wackos.
Obama & Paul voters are brainwashed nuts!!!
I have learn a lot today. I will not stink up the voting cubicle with a vote for paul.
Is Ron Paul of this earth? Do the Ronulians sacrifice to the dark one?
MOOSLIMES=3 ; PAUL+zero ; JOHNSON+zero ; CAIN=zero !
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Groan: civil liberties.
Yawn: the constitution.
RIP: America.
Every time I forget what a fucking nutcase Ron Paul is he opens his mouth to remind me!