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How do you respond to something this stupid?

(Salon) — If you have the stomach to listen to enough right-wing talk radio, or troll enough right-wing websites, you inevitably come upon fear-mongering about the Unassimilated Muslim. Essentially, this caricature suggests that Muslims in America are more loyal to their religion than to the United States, that such allegedly traitorous loyalties prove that Muslims refuse to assimilate into our nation and that Muslims are therefore a national security threat.

Earlier this year, a Gallup poll illustrated just how apocryphal this story really is. It found that Muslim Americans are one of the most — if not the single most — loyal religious group to the United States. Now, comes the flip side from the Pew Research Center’s stunning findings about other religious groups in America. [...]

If, as Islamophobes argue, refusing to assimilate is defined as expressing loyalty to a religion before loyalty to country, then this data suggests it is evangelical Christians who are very resistant to assimilation. And yet, few would cite these findings to argue that Christians pose a serious threat to America’s national security. Why the double standard?

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HT: Patrick Poole

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49 comments
  1. Dapandico says:
    November 30, 2011 at 12:19 pm

    I say yes if you attended Jerremiah Wrights church.

  2. deez says:
    November 30, 2011 at 12:23 pm

    Show us one evangelical who has put their faith in front of their country or made a statement to that extent in the past year, because it wouldn’t be too hard to drum up hundreds of examples (and audio clips) of American Muslims doing just that. Ever hear of Anwar al-Alwaki, Salon? He’s example one of thousands.

  3. Diamond Girl says:
    November 30, 2011 at 12:23 pm

    Dapandico…

    Rev. Manning would agree with that…unfortunately, they’d go after Manning and ilk.

    The Enemy Within never stop…they also never cease to amaze me.

  4. No Shame says:
    November 30, 2011 at 12:26 pm

    between now and November 2012 as it becomes more and more apparent how badly they will be trounced in the polls I expect to see more and more outrageous fantasies from the liberal theologians.

  5. Blackops says:
    November 30, 2011 at 12:26 pm

    By fighting fire with fire, they do this and we do something like: “liberals are more likely to take their political ideology to the extreme” it’s not about fair criticism anymore , it’s about the servival of the fittest now.

  6. Daddy-O says:
    November 30, 2011 at 12:27 pm

    It’s not so much stupid as it is insane.

  7. deez says:
    November 30, 2011 at 12:30 pm

    This is just blatant water-carrying for their Islamic overlords.

    A poll found American Muslims the “most loyal” religious group to the United States? Despite all the evidence to the contrary from the now weekly foiled homegrown terror plots to the frequent reports of “Minnesota youths” going to Somalia for terror training.

    It’s almost like the Muslims in this country know exactly how to answer pollsters in order to cover their true feelings. But that couldn’t explain the poll results, isn’t lying a sin in Islam? Wait…

  8. Smokey says:
    November 30, 2011 at 12:30 pm

    Grayson ad………..??……………….really??

  9. Xavier says:
    November 30, 2011 at 12:33 pm

    “Muslims in America are more loyal to their religion than to the United States”

    Yesterday Zip ran a story about an Egyptian cleric calling for the Saudis to preclude their women from the Olympics and cited the birth of Mo (piss be upon him) in SA as justification.

    If their religion believes it can dictate – from Egypt – what SA should do – what do they intend for the rest of the muslim-occupied world?

    Mostly Moderate Muslims™ My Ass.

  10. Teacake says:
    November 30, 2011 at 12:33 pm

    I saw that as well Smokey, yesterday as well as a muslim dating service. WTF???

  11. Spurwing Plover says:
    November 30, 2011 at 12:38 pm

    Hey what about THE NATION OF ISLAM?

  12. Katherine says:
    November 30, 2011 at 12:40 pm

    Too stupid for words.

  13. Xavier says:
    November 30, 2011 at 12:42 pm

    Propaganda, pure and simple. O’bumbler has publicly given up on the uneducated white vote and this plays to the anti-bitter clinger crowd. Another example of selective facts and the hook at the beginning of the article – that Evangelicals and muslims are 2 sides of the same coin. Except for that part about killing infidels and world domination.

  14. Jefferson, Madison, et.al. says:
    November 30, 2011 at 12:43 pm

    Cluebat to Salon: American is founded upon principles enshrined in Christian faith, not the other way around… and certainly not upon Marxist ideology or sharia law.

    “We hold these truths to be self-evident…”

  15. ThomNJ says:
    November 30, 2011 at 12:49 pm

    So is all this constant and blatant falsehood just a precursor to the announcement on November 7th, 2012 that obama won the election in a landslide? Are they just trying to get us used to and accept this crap?

  16. CMU VET says:
    November 30, 2011 at 12:49 pm

    God, family and then Country.

  17. Rob says:
    November 30, 2011 at 12:53 pm

    “…It found that Muslim Americans are one of the most — if not the single most — loyal religious group to the United States….”
    =====================================

    and so it begins… again

    leftists bashing the Christian religion…

    yeah… where has that happened before… umm …

    Communist Russia, Communist China, Communist Vietnam, Nazi Germany

    see the trend… it is quite obvious who has a certain bias…

    the leftists will… lie… cheat… and steal… their way into power

    muslims are loyal to anything that is sharia compliant

  18. Matel Onely says:
    November 30, 2011 at 12:53 pm

    Of course the Muslims won’t but their religeon before their country, they still think they are in their country of origin. the US is not “Their” country.

  19. libertyinall50 says:
    November 30, 2011 at 12:57 pm

    The Left and Islam–perfect together…until of course they achieve their ultimate “Arab Spring” and then the Left will all become dhimmis or dead

    http://www.politicalislam.com/blog/islam-is-not-part-of-our-civilization/

  20. Dapandico says:
    November 30, 2011 at 12:58 pm

    How many females work at Salon?

  21. rickb223 says:
    November 30, 2011 at 1:03 pm

    Diamond Girl says:
    November 30, 2011 at 12:23 pm
    Dapandico…

    The Enemy Within never stop…they also never cease to amaze me.

    I need new glasses. I read that as The Enemy Whines never stop.

  22. NoDragonspeak says:
    November 30, 2011 at 1:04 pm

    To nimrodians all gatherings are gang recruiting meetings…especially when they are not invited…

    Gang theology 101…Manipulate facts, reject truth, obsess against enemies…Gen 11:6

  23. Northstar says:
    November 30, 2011 at 1:06 pm

    This is such crap, such drivel .. This nation was founded by Christians and the underpinnings of our country are based upon Christian principles.

    If a Christian puts his faith above his country, its because his country has become an ungodly alliance of ungodly people sanctioning all manner of evil and permissiveness which leads to the chaos and social degradation we are seeing today.

    That would only mean Christians were call the country to a higher standard.

    Unlike Muslims who would be embracing Sharia law and championing hatred for infidels (anyone who doesn’t agree with them), murder, etc., ad nauseum.

  24. Dapandico says:
    November 30, 2011 at 1:08 pm

    Jackboot Janet has already warned us about Extremist Veterans and Turkey Fryers. Isn’t this piling it on?

  25. dba...vagabond trader says:
    November 30, 2011 at 1:14 pm

    Go ahead lefturds, try to deflect for your head chopper friends. Wait til they demand you yodel the shahada or else. You’ll be begging the true G_d for mercy.

  26. NoDragonspeak says:
    November 30, 2011 at 1:15 pm

    Follow the money…probably from a group that needs a propaganda front to hide their true motivations…

    The Qur’an openly states many times that Allah is the ‘best deceiver’. The root word used in these verses is Makr which means deception

    http://www.wikiislam.com/wiki/Allah_the_best_Deceiver

    deception: concealment for personal or corporate gain, preservation or partisan advancement…To practice deceit or guile or circumvention, practice evasion or elusion, to plot, to excercise art or craft or cunning, act with policy, practice strategem…snare or trap or profane the unsuspecting or innocent…

    Al Taqiyya (tagiyeh, taqiah)- lying for Islam, deception, concealment for personal or corporate preservation or advancement

  27. Fishy Commentator says:
    November 30, 2011 at 1:15 pm

    Ehhh… if you hadn’t realized it yet, Christians have been discriminated against in the workplace and businesses for years and in recent months in the Military to the point that the Cross cannot be displayed on Chapels on Military bases in Afghanistan!

  28. Kat says:
    November 30, 2011 at 1:17 pm

    In America, Christians don’t have to choose whether to be loyal to their religion OR to their country. Scripture and the Constitution both allow them to be loyal to Christianity AND the United States at the same time.

    On the other hand, the Koran specifically tells Muslims their ONLY true loyalty is to Islam and the Ummah (the Musim community), and that any loyalty to specific nation, infidel, or group of infidels should only be given for the sake of political expediency/expedient dissimulation(taqiyyah).

  29. Guy Hontz says:
    November 30, 2011 at 1:32 pm

    Lets see it was Christians that bombed Khobar towers, USS. Cole, flew planes into World Trade Center, Shot our people at Fort Hood. Now i get it all Christians are terrorist.

  30. hoodaticus says:
    November 30, 2011 at 1:34 pm

    Who comes first, Jesus or America?

    Well ask yourself this: which one would you rather have as an enemy? An all-powerful, all-knowing, extra-temporal deity who sends almost every human soul to eternal damnation and can destroy the universe by omission, or a puny human government so inept it can’t secure its own border?

    Given that, I think pissing off Jesus is the wrong way to go, and it’s therefore best to put Him before country.

  31. Lightwave says:
    November 30, 2011 at 1:45 pm

    You will find a lot more “Americans” are more loyal to Jesus and the scripture than Obamee’s “America”.

    We’ll be asked to choose over the next year.

    I know what my choice will be.

    Whose side are YOU on?

  32. Pete says:
    November 30, 2011 at 1:48 pm

    Stupid is forever. This is how you respond.

    http://weaselzippers.us/2011/11/29/iraqi-security-forces-arrest-wahhabi-woman-for-sending-her-9-year-old-son-to-blow-himself-up-in-shia-mosque/

  33. Major Glory says:
    November 30, 2011 at 1:48 pm

    Evengelicals most often laying waste to the works of Satan. Salon makes the mistake that that means them. We have allready crossed into the enemy’s trenches. We own your intarwebs.

  34. Pete says:
    November 30, 2011 at 1:50 pm

    And a man who saw the future.

    At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us, it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide.

    A. Lincoln

    http://showcase.netins.net/web/creative/lincoln/speeches/lyceum.htm

  35. Max & Eric says:
    November 30, 2011 at 2:30 pm

    If Jesus appeared before me I would fall to my knees and amid my tears I would profess him to be my Lord and Savior, Obama not so much, I would Probably start laughing at him. NO love for him here.

  36. CS_GUY says:
    November 30, 2011 at 2:31 pm

    Heredity dictates if your parents were lunatics politically, chances are you will be also.

    Now, how do we take these ingrates?

    We Love Them………they absolutely hate it when we ignore them, or love them.

    Misery loves company………go figure..

  37. Chris in N.Va. says:
    November 30, 2011 at 2:31 pm

    Let’s see….let’s do a quick comparison:

    FBI current Most Wanted poster of its top 25 prime suspects currently being actively sought for commiting various serious crimes (and you don’t get on that list because you didn’t eat all your vegetables) —

    Muslim/Islamic background = 25
    Others = 0 (as is zero, zip, nada, zilch, nuttin’)

    Yup, them thar Bible-clingin’ Jeezus-luvin’ evangelical Christians are obviously the greatest threat to our fine country, sho’ ’nuff.

    Slobbering libtard moron…

  38. KCL says:
    November 30, 2011 at 2:36 pm

    Funny thing. . .I cant find that scripture in the KJV that commands us to kill in the name of Jesus.

  39. hoodaticus says:
    November 30, 2011 at 2:58 pm

    @KCL

    Jesus ordered his disciples to carry swords. What were they for, cricket?

  40. hoodaticus says:
    November 30, 2011 at 2:58 pm

    Oh nevermind – I thought you were making a different point.

  41. Spurwing Plover says:
    November 30, 2011 at 3:06 pm

    How long before they replace CHRISTMAS with that phonie african celebration KWANZA?

  42. RichardD says:
    November 30, 2011 at 3:17 pm

    The difference between Fundamentalist Christians, is they’re American’s first and foremost. Fundamentalist Muslims (A good 95% of all Muslims) are Muslims first and American dead last. Also, no Evangelical Christian has ever strapped a bomb on themselves and attacked a Mosque. Muslims on the other hand….

  43. mike says:
    November 30, 2011 at 3:50 pm

    When was the last time anyone heard a suicide bomber exclaim “In the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost”, or “Hear O Israel: the Lord our God, the Lord is One”?

    Never, it’s always the same “Allah Hu Akbar”, or “Our God is better than yours!”

    Now who’s the real threat?

    Know Islam, Know Violence
    No Islam, No Violence

  44. Redneckbob says:
    November 30, 2011 at 4:48 pm

    We have a socialist Muslim in the Whitehouse, what do you expect?

  45. Rachel says:
    November 30, 2011 at 5:58 pm

    Salon has apparently missed the fact that Christians haven’t been flying airplanes into buildings full of innocent civilians or strapping on suicide bombs.

  46. Barbara Schwarz says:
    November 30, 2011 at 6:54 pm

    As usual with polls, the questions are worded very generally, then the answers skewed to “prove” a point. The Pew poll question was “What do you consider yourself first”- Nationality or Christian. (How can Muslims even answer that question, as they are not ‘Christian’!) It does not ask about loyalty or would you defend your country. Typical liberal bias toward Christians. I’m sure they’re counting on telling the masses the lies long enough and they’ll start to believe them.
    Praise the Lord – He’s coming again soon!!

  47. Florida Girl says:
    November 30, 2011 at 7:38 pm

    Funny I find this today, because I was told I would put my religion before country by a “conservative” on a con-site. Why? Because Im catholic. So it comes from both sides. I made no other statement other than I’m a catholic, and they got that from it.

  48. Katherine says:
    November 30, 2011 at 10:57 pm

    Someone should tell Salon that Jesus said “give to Caesar what is Caesar’s and to God what is God’s.

    Therefore, Christians understand the difference between the allegiance owed to their country and the allegiance owed to God. One does not top the other since each is concerned with different things.

  49. Art Adams says:
    December 1, 2011 at 12:51 pm

    @Katherine very well played.. God, Family, Country… I am not “likely” to put my faith before country, I absolutely put it before my country.

    Proud American Infidel Veteran.

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