Obama DHS Official: “Not Helpful To Frame Our Adversary As Islamic With Any Set of Qualifiers, Because We Are Not At War With Islam”…
Someone forgot to tell the Islamists we’re not at war with their religion/political ideology.
Check out this surrealistic exchange from Wednesday’s hearing, between Rep. Dan Lungren, R-Calif., and Paul Stockton, Assistant Defense Secretary for Homeland Defense:
REPRESENTATIVE DANIEL LUNGREN (R-CA): Secretary Stockton, are we at war with violent Islamist extremism?
MR. STOCKTON: No, sir. We are at war with al-Qaida, its affiliates —
REP. LUNGREN: OK, I understand that. My question is, is violent Islamist extremism at war with us?
MR. STOCKTON: No, sir. We are being attacked by al-Qaida and its allies.
REP. LUNGREN: Is al-Qaida — can it be described as being an exponent of violent Islamist extremism?
MR. STOCKTON: They — al-Qaida are murderers with an ideological agenda –
REP. LUNGREN: No, I — that’s not my question. That wasn’t my question. My question was, is al-Qaida acting out violent Islamist extremism?
MR. STOCKTON: Al-Qaida is a violent organization dedicated to overthrowing the values that we intend to advance —
REP. LUNGREN: So is it yes or no?
MR. STOCKTON: Can I hear the question again? I’ll make it as clear as I can. We are not at war with Islam. And it is not —
REP. LUNGREN: I didn’t ask that — I did not ask that, sir. I asked whether we’re at war with violent Islamist extremism. That’s my question.
MR. STOCKTON: No, we’re at war with al-Qaida and its affiliates.
REP. LUNGREN: Well, al-Qaida — how does al-Qaida define itself? Are they dedicated to violent Islamist extremism?
MR. STOCKTON: Al-Qaida would love to convince Muslims around the world that the United States is at war with Islam.
REP. LUNGREN: I didn’t say that.
MR. STOCKTON: That’s a prime propaganda tool.
REP. LUNGREN: Sir —
MR. STOCKTON: And I’m not going to aid and abet that effort to advance their propaganda goal.
REP. LUNGREN: No, no, my question is, is there a difference between Islam and violent Islamist extremism?
MR. STOCKTON: Sir, with great respect, I don’t believe it’s helpful to frame our adversary as Islamic with any set of qualifiers that we might add, because we are not at war with Islam.
REP. LUNGREN: I understand that. I never said we were at war with Islam. One of the questions we’re trying to deal with is the radicalization of Islam, is the radicalization of Islamic youth. And if we can’t distinguish between violent Islamist extremism and Islam, then all this stuff about behavioral indicators doesn’t mean anything.
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Islam: Born of an Illiterate Warlord the “Prophet Mohammad” was a murderer, slaver, rapist, thief, liar, and a Pedophile, just to name a few. Do you Muslims really think God would send down such an evil man to save mankind?
Muslims do.
Bullsheet.
Their book says kill Jews,enough for me and pretty clear from where I sit.
Fck islam.
We may not be at war with islam, but islam is at war with us, and they are playing for keeps.
It is absolutely frightening how far the Radical Islamist plan to bring down freedom has advanced in our own Federal government.
MikeS – yep. Simple as that.
“Who’s On First”, starring Paul Stockton as Bud Abbott.
Sometimes a simple kick in the teeth really is preferable.
Exactly… the problem is that Barry’s allegiance to Islam prevents him from understanding that we are at war with them.
The all-out war with Islam is just around the corner.
Uh, the cries of “Allahu Akbar” while killing American citizens kinda’ gives it away.
The Koran details how to treat infidels and apostates. Not all Muslims follow the jihad mandate in the Koran. Technically, Islam, and extreme Islam is the same thing. To non Muslims, the word ‘extreme’ is appropriate. To Muslims, it is not applicable as they are just doing Allah’s work.
Since I cannot tell the difference between those who want to saw my head off, and those who may not, I avoid them all.
But the RNC refuses to attack Obama personally.
And you can bet the farm that they won’t even consider attacking him for being the biggest Muslim sympathiser in the government.
I believe he is mistaken. Islam is straight out of hell and intends to put all of us under their dirty stinking boot.
Okay – so we have a vague enemy defined. How about this one that ain’t so vague? Clearly they have declared war on us over and over again by their very acts:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/iran-responsible-for-1998-us-embassy-bombings/2011/12/08/gIQAuEAAfO_story.html
Meh…of course, has nothing to do with pisslam…
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From the story below…from their school own textbooks even.
“Whoever studies the nature of the conflict between the Muslims and the Jews understands an important fact, [namely that] this is a religious conflict, not a dispute about politics or nationality, or a conflict between races or tribes, or a fight over land or country, as some describe it,” states Saudi textbook Studies from the Muslim World.
The book says that the conflict will not end unless one side vanquishes the other, because “throughout Islamic history, the Jews have striven to destroy the [Islamic] religion and spread fitna [chaos] among the Muslims.”The book also repeats classic anti-Semitic lies that Jews have taken control of Western media and culture, exploited their home societies, and aligned themselves with Christians to destroy Islam.
One more time in case ya missed it.
““Whoever studies the nature of the conflict between the Muslims and the Jews understands an important fact, [namely that] this is a religious conflict, not a dispute about politics or nationality,”
We haven’t openly declared war on Islam yet, but its coming. As for Stockton, its amazing that we have this level of double speak from even the lower minions in this corrupt administration. If any American can agree with this level of obfuscation being engaged in by an administration official, in direct response to Congressional inquiry … they need to take another look at their position and their patriotism. This is undermining our country.
Stockton should be turned over to some of us vets so we can straighten this ahole out.
Obama is at war with america itself his peace prize should be recinded WAR MONGERS DONT DESERVE PEACE PRIZES
Its like arguing with a spoiled child…..Stockton your a fkn idiot
That snippet encapsulates the entire situation . Cowardice and ignorance wrapped up in hubris. This will get rather messy and unpleasant. And it doesn’t matter who wins the election, this mindset crosses both parties membership in majority numbers.
[The whole retarded discussion as it really ought to have been if Mr Stockton was smarter and less cowardly than Representative Daniel Lungren]
REPRESENTATIVE DANIEL LUNGREN (R-CA): Secretary Stockton, are we at war with violent Islamist extremism?
MR. STOCKTON: No, sir. We are at war with islam proper as muhammad the founder and key central figure of the islamic cult clearly and repeatedly defined it ad nauseum.
REP. LUNGREN: OK, I understand that. My question is, is violent Islamist extremism at war with us?
MR. STOCKTON: No, sir. Islam is violent in and of itself, so your question is therefore redundant.
REP. LUNGREN: Is al-Qaida — can it be described as being an exponent of violent Islamist extremism?
MR. STOCKTON: No sir, they are fundamentalists following Islam in the classical sense.
REP. LUNGREN: No, I — that’s not my question. That wasn’t my question. My question was, is al-Qaida acting out violent Islamist extremism?
MR. STOCKTON: No, they are acting out Islam.
REP. LUNGREN: I didn’t ask that — I did not ask that, sir. I asked whether we’re at war with violent Islamist extremism. That’s my question.
MR. STOCKTON: No, we’re at war with leftist Islam enablers who are apparently too stupid and cowardly to let two plus two to equal four.
REP. LUNGREN: Thank you for your honesty, Mr. Stockton, have a nice day.
MR. STOCKTON: And you as well, sir.
Stupid, just pure stupid.. the United States is at war with Islam because Islam is at war with the United States.. on the one hand the Hussein regime claims we are not at war with Islam but only with al Qaeda and on the other hand the Hussein regime aids and abets al Qaeda in Libya and elsewhere.. obviously Hussein is on the side of al Qaeda not the United States..
the dirty little secret that we as a people dont seem willing to admit, even to ourselves, is that of course we are at war with the dirty filthy little religion known as islam
He is telling the truth, he is not at war with Islam.
Its American partiots he is at war with………..you can do that when you have 40 body guards and no opposition.
He is a spineless, lying, socialist dictator.
Death to pisslam. Piss be upon moehammy, the psychopathic sadist. pisslam is the scourge of the world, at war with everyone, by their own admission and actions. Hope to see the day meccaleccahighmeccahineyho is obliterated.
How shameful to be a mooslum, to follow the dictates of such a vile animal.