I accept the fact that Obama was born a mooslim, went to a mooslim school in Indonesia, attended Mosque with this step father, and then attended the church of an anti-semetic, anti American, racist “pastor” for 20 years. That does NOT make him a Christian. Let’s see the record of Baptism, shall we? If it exists, Obama is an appostate which is punishable by death according to the Religion of Pieces.
Mn Jim
Santorum”s correct response should have been: “I am a Christian. I have no idea what obama is.”
Amica
His claimed father was muslim. That ‘religion’ follows the father to the children.
‘Nuff said.
Pendog
Facts? I don’ see no stinkin’ facts
Amica
And BO has already referred to ‘his muslim faith’. On television with Snuffleupagus having to correct him.
What more proof does anyone need?
How about how BO thinks that the muslim call to prayer is the most beautiful sound?
Is that enough for ya?
deez
Furthermore, his own supporters would be appalled if he were a practicing Christian.
CMU VET
So,what if anything was Franklin Marshall Davis? DNA Tests would be very revealing.
http://questionablefuture.wordpress.com/ Brian A.
Liberation Theology is not Christianity. It is just Marxism wrapped in a religious shell.
SpringTexas
Liberals are steering the debate away from Obama’s abysmal record and are defining the topics of this election campaign…social issues like religion, contraceptives, etc. and the Republicans are stupidly falling into the Liberals’ trap. The topics need to be unemployment and the economy…Obama can’t win on these. I’m afraid it’s 4 more years of Obama if the Republicans can change their game.
Natural Born
I agree with the Senator, wink wink.
SpringTexas
* Republicans can’t
Rufus
This was on a CBS Face the Nation show.
You didn’t really think he would the balls to say anything other than what he did, did you?
Fishy Commentator
I don’t think Santorum was prepared to answer this question at all. Most Republican candidates are NOT prepared to do so. Why? (you might ask)
I would like to hear Santorum retract this statement that Obama is a Christian, because Obama is NOT a Christian. Santorum would also have to be prepared to do a comparison of what Christianity is and what Black Liberation Theology is, but that means research and understanding of what the difference is. That being said, I wonder if any of the Republican Candidates have the conviction and motivation to address this issue. They are going to have overcome their fear of the Leftist dominated Media and tell the truth and I am not at all certain any of them are willing to do this.
Spurwing Plover
Santorum has gone totaly wacko
7777777
born a muslim always a muslim,. right obama
Pendog
” I accept the fact that Obama is a charlatan.” Fixt it.
Papoose
rut roh.
I agree. I get it. and its not about religion.
Green is the new Economics. the greed. the change. god’s gifts to man, control.
i saw a celebrity advertising for shampoo and told me to use this product so to keep the planet clean – as the commercial ended, today, this morning.
thanks!
Sickofobama
Mn Jim:
That would have been an awesome come back.
But I think Santorum knows he has to tow the line so LIBTARDs like McShame don’t attack him.
LizardLips
He’s a statist. You can’t serve two masters.
Sickofobama
You guys have got to read this from the American Thinker:
The candidates are not prepared for the quesion because the 2 other answers than, “yes he is”, are…
He’s secretly a Muslim and masquerading as a Christian as part of Islam’s long term plan to Islamify the USA.
He’s an atheist, using his fake Chrisitanity to get elected.
Papoose
in barky’s mind Obama is the Religion. long term plan. corraling the Arabian Muslamics as we speak so the Chicago NOI can reign as supreme in due time.
barky and company aren’t even Athiests as that would even give some semblance to the thought of a Creator.
busted. science is the alpha and omega. and how its orchestrated. its hierarchy.
Ca-ching. shut up and sit down, next!
Zcat
I wish for once one of these politicians would say the truth and stick with it. Obama is NO christian, his policies are anti-religion, and his actions do not correlate with the christian faith!
Junius
How can an evil hell spawn of Satan be a Christian.
gastorgrab
I’m looking for a candidate who can keep his subjective beliefs separate from his objective beliefs. Government authority to regulate morality is a government authority to regulate the church.
No socialist can can separate those things. He sees no difference between subjective and objective truths. He makes his whim the new reality for everyone. Socialism is Spiritual and Political order, in one.
F.D.R. in Hell
Obviously, this Anti-Christ is not fooling -everyone-.
Papoose
what are they going to call the Third Installment to the Bible?
~
* the Harmony Testament, as foreshadowed by the Old and the Newer Old?
* the Revitalized New Testament. From the Age of Pisces to Aquarius?
* The Community III, allahBO willing?
Beatitudes are a Not For Profit kinda thing.
NWMN
I accept the fact that he says he is a Christian, but do not believe it.
Warlord
I possibly had my vote, right up to this statement. His ignorance on the subject of Islam. Both he and Romney have just a clue about its nature, with Newt being the most knowledgeable. Obamma is sympathetic to muslims whenever possible, because this is his religion. His claim to Christianity is taqqia, a lie to further the aims of the ummah. We are guilty of this tragedy of a presidency by electing an
imposter bent on the ruin of this country to further his aims. Listen real well when he speaks, he means every word. Santorum has some educating to be done
to catch up with present reality concerning the aims of Obumma, and what he
is dealing with.
chickadee
I hope Santorum continues to aggressively go after o-hole, personally and politically. He should have explained the United Trinity Church of Hate and rev. wrong. Gone into Black Lib Theology. Bring all the facts out especially when he has a national audience.
Educate lib fools like this mfm hack. Take charge of the narrative. Go on offense instead of back peddling and conceding any imagined positive thing abt. o-hole. He is what he is.
Fck pulling your punches and being conciliatory with the enemy. That old fart was out to make Santorum look bad.
Phil
WOW! WAKE UP!!! this is a bunch of bull excrement designed to get Santorum to make a judgement against Obummer that the lost mindless middle use to justify stupid votes. Would the people spouting off here against Santorum get their heads out of their asses? THINK!!! Who asked the question? Why did they ask the question? If Santorum stated the obvious answer, would it have helped our cause? The answers are easy. FOR THE SAKE OF OUR CAUSE……… WAKE UP!!!!!
Papoose
i could be wrong but i think the “belief” part was a segue to the point.
like alright, uhmm, doesn’t matter. just sayin.
christian or not christian is of no import. the antiAmerican part is of essence.
Phil
THINK THINK THINK………… wouldn’t everyone of us here be happy with any of the republican candidates if the choice is the republican or Obummer?
The dim witted media is out-smarting us when we attack our own. There’s nothing wrong with vetting our candidates. There is something seriously wrong with the media playing games and getting us to shoot ourselves in the foot over bullshit like “is Obummer a Christian?” Santorum’s answer was the perfect answer to a STUPID question. All of us here are going to vote for the Republican (except if Paul goes independent, which will mean a big portion will split and we lose!) . We should be fighting to convince the idiots in the middle that Obummer is a loser. Try putting yourself in those idiots position and try thinking of a way to convince them of what is right……… Or just piss em off and these idiots will vote for Obummer. THINK!!!!!
dba…vagabond trader
Love how some get their panties in a wad over a candidates expressing his beliefs, yet it is perfectly fine for Hussein and the O-bot minions to shove communistic liberation/marxist theology up our collective arses. Someone please tell me what the difference is.
Oh, I know, in no way has Santorum or any other R indicated they will squat on the Constitution to make their “religious” beliefs the law of the land.
dba…vagabond trader
addendum:
Santorum is clumsy in his delivery, too bad our leadership appears incapable of articulating what needs to be said. We have a commie ideologue in the WH, here is the proof and we must defeat him for the survival of our liberty.
StrangernFiction
Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. He’s a fake conservative, he’s too conservative to get elected. He’s not strong enough, he’s too controversial. I watched the entire attack….err interview and thought Rick did great.
Stash
I agree with Phil….if Santorum would have answered honestly then all we would be talking about the next two weeks would be how hateful Santorum is. I’m glad he didn’t fall for it.
vulfy
Santorum should realize that these condescending people need to be put in their place. Also his handlers need to learn that it is not only what you say, but HOW it is said. This is constructive criticism. He made it sound too much as though he was wining, instead of a steady authoritative voice in the style of Charles Krauthammer.
Some people simply do not realize it is Very important how you come across to the vast audiences who get their ideas about a candidate from television, and internet sources! God Bless America!
rick
Everytime I start to feel comfortable about Santorum, he opens his mouth. Obama is no more a Christian than another Hussein was.
forest
Obama is an atheist. I know his type. Way too arrogant to believe in God.
NoDragonspeak
Matt 7:15 .. Beware of false professors, who come to you dressed as sheep (believing in the Messiah), but inside they are devouring wolves (defiled & defiling alal Hb#5953, Ar#5954). Eze 22:27 .. You will fully recognize them by their fruits. Do people pick grapes from thorns, or figs from thistles .. ? Even so every healthy sound tree bears good fruit worthy of admiration, but the sickly, decaying worthless tree / worldview bears bad worthless fruit. A good healthy tree cannot bear bad worthless fruit, nor can a bad diseased tree bear excellent fruit worthy of admiration ..
Matt 24:3-5…Now as He sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things be? And what will be the (prime singular) sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?” And Jesus answered and said to them: “TAKE HEED THAT NO ONE DECEIVES YOU.” For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am the Christ (or of Christ, or smarter than Christ), and will deceive many…
trainman55
Someone should tell Santorum that it is not a FACT that Obama is a Christian.
It is only Obama’s claim that he is a Christian!
He sure hasn’t shown much Christianity in his “administration”!
StrangernFiction
@Phil
I agree with you that attacking fellow conservatives is clearly repugnant. But Mitt Romney is not a conservative so I’ll continue to attack him, and I will not vote for him.
7777777
Santorum says Obama’s agenda not based on the Bible
Rick Moran
Is this really that important? Reuters:
Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum challenged President Barack Obama’s Christian beliefs on Saturday, saying White House policies were motivated by a “different theology.”
A devout Roman Catholic who has risen to the top of Republican polls in recent days, Santorum said the Obama administration had failed to prevent gas prices rising and was using “political science” in the debate about climate change.
Obama’s agenda is “not about you. It’s not about your quality of life. It’s not about your jobs. It’s about some phony ideal. Some phony theology. Oh, not a theology based on the Bible. A different theology,” Santorum told supporters of the conservative Tea Party movement at a Columbus hotel.
When asked about the statement at a news conference later, Santorum said, “If the president says he’s a Christian, he’s a Christian.”
But Santorum did not back down from the assertion that Obama’s values run against those of Christianity.
“He is imposing his values on the Christian church. He can categorize those values anyway he wants. I’m not going to,” Santorum told reporters.
Santorum did indeed “categorize” Obama’s values. He said his “theology” – presumably from where those values spring – is not “based on the Bible.”
It isn’t a question of Santorum being right or wrong. It’s a question of relevance. Does it really matter whether a candidate bases his political beliefs on the Bible?
In the narrow world of social conservatives, no doubt the answer is yes. As for the rest of America, it probably doesn’t matter as much and indeed, puts off independents and potential swing Democratic voters who may share many of those “values” with Obama.
I agree with Phil….if Santorum would have answered honestly then all we would be talking about the next two weeks would be how hateful Santorum is.
That is what the Mythbots would be talking about, yes.
GuitarMark
Lot’s of interesting and intelligent comments.
Sickofobama, thanks for the link to American Thinker -I checked it out, great letter/story/analysis.
I’ll point out the following thing that I’m sure everyone here has heard long ago and knows well: actions speak louder than words… so while he “says” he’s a Christian,” my conclusions on the truth of the matter are based not on his words, but his deeds -which, I submit, speak for themselves.
GuitarMark
And yeah, Santorum has done everyone a disservice by his claim. If he really believes that O’s a Christian, that says a great deal about his intelligence and competence; if he doesn’t believe it and says it, that also says a great deal -and what it says is disturbing -to say the least…
Sniffy Pop Tuna Scented Popcorn
Rick Please.
You could have framed this differently, but I was not in your shoes at the time.
NJK
Why did he do this? I’ve lost respect for him. Do his actions show Christianity Rick? Does his daily prayer with Rashad Hussain, show Christianity Rick? Do his attacks on the Catholic Church show Christianity Rick. I’m going to throw up. I just can’t take this pandering anymore. I was really starting to like him, but, yuk.
He’s taking a serial liar at his word? I like what Rick Perry said when he was asked that question, “Why are you asking me, ask him.” This makes him look really stupid and like a chump.
Community, the World, Family, CoWorkers, and god if its convenient and fits in somewhere. Change, the Hope. the Cash.
L.E. Liesner
Obama is a Marxist, and Marxism is a Godless religion. Santorum is just blowing smoke because it’s politically correct. The last thing this country needs in this day and age is more politically correct politicians.
DanlBoone
Fishy Commentator says:
…
I would like to hear Santorum retract this statement that Obama is a Christian, because Obama is NOT a Christian.
__
no.
That’s above Santorum’s or anyone else’s pay grade. Even if it were a theological debate.. which it isn’t –only the doctrine is in scrutiny– not the man’s profession.
That’s wholly his nine-yards before God, so to speak.
and if it does spin that way in the court of public opinion– he just lost the debate. He’s probably painted too religious in all things already. He needs to refine that message to the secular landscape.
He can redirect the press’s questions to his prior comments, and launch from there to the security and economic straits we’re in.. not that the media would report it that way tho.
Look what the press so-called did to Palin, attributing things to her that she never said.. but the smear was effective.
sb
I think Santorum did fine here. Deface the Nation is an attack arm of the barry administration. If Santorum had said that barry is not a Christian, after barry has repeated claimed that he is a Christian, he would have been attacked for calling barry a liar.
Let barry’s actions speak for themselves. People need to start talking about what Black Liberation Theology is. And bring up barry’s repeated misquotes of the Bible that easily show that he has not even read the Good Book.
“I am my brother’s keeper and my sister’s keeper……” What a joke you are, barry.
Commieobamie
U LIE!!!
http://dustofthebalance.blogspot.com/ Coldwar1204
The idea that Barack Hussein Obama is a Christian is absolutely laughable! Jeremiah Wright, his “mentor” hates Christianity and America. He doesn’t miss an opportunity to bow deeply to Arab and muslim world leaders. He encourages our enemies, giving them aid and comfort (Yes, and he’s not alone. We should expand the facilities at Leavenworth to get ready for an influx of “residents.”)
They will know we are Christians by our love one for another. Does this fit our Dear Leader? If there were any love there he wouldn’t be taking away freedom, he would be following the Constitution. Instead of bypassing Congress, he would accept the will of the People. Instead of suing Arizona, he would ensure that the United States had strong borders, one language (English), and followed the mores of a single culture that is unmistakably American.
Katherine
I wish Santorum had answered differently. Sometimes distinctions need to be made.
I realize that the question was a set-up, but wish he had answered the question with a very specific question of his own, “have you ever heard Obama acknowledge that Christ died for his sins? Because that is the essence of Christianity, and I’ve never heard him say it.”
Jackie
I don’t accept it……………he’s a muslim!
NoDragonspeak
Interestingly .. Did you know that the word “christian” is a pagan religionist label which has come to usurp/obscure “in faith believing” which it can not? Acts 11:26 .. in most of the middle east it commonly is applied as meaning outside the Islamic religion ..
Al taqiyya / deception: concealment for personal or corporate gain, preservation or partisan advancement…To practice deceit or guile or circumvention, practice evasion or elusion, to plot, to excercise art or craft or cunning, act with policy, practice strategem…snare or trap or profane or take away from the unsuspecting, the simpleminded, the old, weak or innocent…
clayusmcret
Raised in a mix of muslim schools as a youth and Marxist/atheist home, school and church as an adult, there is no Christian upbringing in obama’s background. What he is is an amalgamation of non and anti-American schooling. America is seeing it more and more as the days pass.
Rick, you should have blown off that question and just stuck to your guns. We know what you meant – you never came right out and said it – that Obama is a Muslim – but it was inferred and I’m glad you said it. It shows that Obama and his minions are sensative over the issue and you got them riled up. That should have been the end of it. Let them get riled up. We WANT them riled up. Don’t try to gloss over something that you said by backpeddling. It’s not a winning strategy when the horse has already left the barn. LEAVE WELL ENOUGH ALONE. If someone asks you what you meant by saying what you did, just tell them to think about it – tell them that people can make their own judgements, and then shut the heck up. These politicians are wayyy too busy telling people how they should think. WE DON’T NEED YOU TELLING US HOW TO THINK. We can make up our own minds about whether or not we think Obama is a Muslim. I, for one, think he is. The church photo-ops and his lies about being a Christian are all politicially motivated – like everything he says and does.
Big Bird
Most smart people know that Obama is not a true Christian. He only claims to be for political reasons. If you don’t know already, Obama is a compulsive liar.
Visitor
Santorum’s response is disappointing.
He raised excellent questions and made excellent observations about Obama’s character earlier, and now this wimpy statement.
It’s about Obama’s actions, that’s the essence of all that is known about him, about his character and about his dubious character (and questionable beliefs): his behavior, his actions.
Visitor
Santorum’s response is disappointing.
He raised excellent questions and made excellent observations about Obama’s character earlier, and now this wimpy statement.
It’s about Obama’s actions, that’s the essence of all that is known about him, about his character and about his dubious character (and questionable beliefs): his behavior, his actions.
BECAUSE “you will know them by their fruit.”
A person is known by their actions, by their behavior, “by their fruit,” what they reveal about their character by the actions they take or refuse to.
In Obama’s case, we do know him by his fruit, at this point in time, and it’s rotten.
A Tree and Its Fruit
15 “Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. 16 You will [a]know them by their fruits. [b]Grapes are not gathered from thorn bushes nor figs from thistles, are they? 17 So every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit.
Footnotes:
Matthew 7:16 Or recognize
Matthew 7:16 Lit They do not gather
Wooooo!!!!!
Obama worships himself, and ‘blesses’ any who would keep him top of the heap. Obama is head Selfer.
http://marysteiner01 ratsofred
Perfect example of a gutless republican politician backing away from the hard facts . Anything to kiss the left wing media ass .
bitterclinger
Mn Jim says:
February 19, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Santorum”s correct response should have been: “I am a Christian. I have no idea what obama is.”
Bingo. Next subject, Mr. Schieffer.
interested
He is a Rev. Wright/ James Cone “christian”. They have taken the term Christian and redefined it to fit the god they have created in their own image.
trainman55
Santorum always says and does what he believes will keep him in the good graces of the “Rockefeller” wing of the republicrat party and their RINO leadership!
Anyone remember Arlen “Despicable” Specter?
Any common jackass could beat Obama, but not any of these current clowns who are making the rounds of the primaries!
It’s just back to the campaigns of Dole and McLame.
Auntie Stupidity
The Kenyan IS a Muslim!
He may admit it when we hand him the election on a platter.
Served up by the nitwit bunch we have to chose from.
In his terms, when he admits it, it’ll be rubbing our faces in it!
Fishy Commentator
@DanlBoone – No, what Elected Officials believe affect the Legislation they push through. This political correctness and burying one’s head in the sand as though what these people believe doesn’t matter is suicide. I suggest rethinking this.
mrteachersir
Katherine says:
February 19, 2012 at 2:32 pm
I wish Santorum had answered differently. Sometimes distinctions need to be made.
__________
He did make a distinction, he mentioned that Obama’s theology is not a Biblical theology, thus distinguishing what Obama says he believes with what he actually does.
mrteachersir
7777777 says:
February 19, 2012 at 1:41 pm
______________
Santorum was speaking to an evangelical crowd, so the American Thinker’s perspective on the relevance of his comment is off-base. Santorum’s statement was geared to the Christian audience, and he delivered.
http://weaselzippers Canadian
I think Obama has prove to you ALL that he is the BIGGEST LYING PRESIDENT – USA has ever had in history. His lying days will be over the day he meets the master face to face.
Obama’s Black Liberation Theology compared to Nazism
There are some striking parallels between Black Nationalism and Nazism. David Horowitz called Black Liberation Theology “Afro-Nazism” in his book “Hating Whitey: And Other Progressive Causes“. Black Liberation Theology, the doctrine of Obama’s racist sect in Chicago is a branch of black nationalism, as is Farrakhan’s Nation of Islam, as well as, the New Black Panthers, Black Hebrew Israelites and a number of other such groups. These black nationalist groups generally have similar Nazi-like basic beliefs, even though they claim to belong to different religions, Christian, Jewish or Muslim.
The sign below reads “Germans beware. Don’t’ buy from Jews”. These thugs below are the agents of a kind of “German Liberation Theology”. The Nazis tried to force a Nazi version of Christianity on the evangelical churches of the Third Reich, which is remarkable similar in racial concept to the Black Liberation Theology (in reverse) that Jeremiah Wright preached.
A comparison of the two:
N-White nationalist with occult belief
system
O=Black nationalist with occult belief
system
N=Socialist
O=Socialist
N=The Aryan race is god
O=The black race is the manifestation of
god on earth
N=The Jews are the Antichrist
O=White society is the Antichrist
N=Jesus fought for the Aryan race
O=Jesus fought for the black race
N=Jesus was a self-exalted man, an archetype
O=Jesus was a self-exalted man, an archetype
N=Any white can exalt himself spiritually to a god-like being
O=Any black can exalt himself spiritually to a god-like being
N=Nazi Mystic Alfred Rosenberg predicted a savior of the Aryan race, which turned out to be Adolf Hitler
O=Black Nationalist mystic, Louis Farrakhan declared that Barack Obama is a black messiah
N=The Jews will be destroyed in the final battle between good and evil (Armageddon)
O=Whites will be destroyed in the final battle between good and evil
N=Destruction of the Jews will bring on the Thousand Year “Reich” (millennial kingdom)
O=Destruction of the white race will bring on a millennial kingdom on earth
N=Germany / white race will rule the world
O=The black race will rule the world. America is the demonic tool of the white race and will be destroyed in the final battle
N=The traditional Christian church is apostate and will be destroyed in the imminent end times
O=The traditional Christian church is apostate and will be destroyed in the imminent end times
N=Formed paramilitary and youth corps for indoctrination
O=Tried to form paramilitary and youth corps, but not yet successful
N=The end justifies the means
O=The end justifies the means
charlotte
Obama may not be the same as Hitler, but he is cut from the same cloth as Hitler in regards to his black nationalist religious beliefs and also the teachings of Saul Alinisky. There are some differences, though. Mainly, Obama and his minions are not yet nearly as effective and organized as the Nazis were, but they keep trying to improve.
It is ironic that we have so many Jews and Germans so enthusiastically supporting this Afro-Nazi movement with their genocidal doctrine of destruction of the white race. But then, there were many Americans deceived by the original Nazis up until WWII actually started.